They look fab as usual from TW Vic, I’ll be interested to see the Baby in bloom, it’s been on and off my list for several years but something else keeps catching my attention.
I'll give it a test for you. I'm risking it in the front garden in a smart pot right from the get-go.
Thanks @owd potter. I am back at around 80% which will do Adding to the hard pruned Beales query, I don't think there's anything left to chop off my recent Beales order below. I'm leaving them as they are.
That long empty bed is looking hugely exciting @HarryWhite, looking forward to progress.
I have quite a few once flowerers @WhereAreMySecateurs, and I'm quite fond of them. Yes, you are right about the flushes - I reckon I get a good 3 weeks out of them, but heavy flowering, not dribs and drabs and as a result when they are flowering they make an impact. The Gallicas I have look good when they are not in flower also which helps, they are generally healthy, a nice shape and covered in leaves. The Albas I have are tall with thin canes and less leafy but I still think they have a certain charm. I only have a couple of Mosses and they are in weird places so I can't make a proper judgement. I have one damask Leda, which I'm happy with so far (two summers). The only issue I have had so far is summer storms. If it rains heavily for a week or winds knock the roses over they don't have a chance to recover.
My second root delivery, this one from Beales, Black Prince, Ely Cathedral, Grosvenor House (2 canes ) Poppy Rose and Red Letter Day. Its breeder name is Jackdaw and that's what I'm going to call it to confuse everyone
Sorry for the delayed reply (i need to learn how to multi quote).
I finally got most of my border planted yesterday. I got hit with Covid on Wednesday, for the first time, really bad timing as i had the days booked off work to plant my bare roots. This meant a delay and i was getting concerned about the length of time i had them packaged up. 10 days in total before i could get them in the ground. I believe that should be ok, borderline but i did keep check the roots were wet.
I'm feeling a bit disappointed with some of the decisions that i made now. Apple trees were mentioned and that was a good idea, i could of put some step overs in there. I guess any fruit and veg that i could of planted in there would of been ideal with food prices and wildlife etc. But it's roses that i've fallen for.
Climbers have also been mentioned and i would of loved to have put one or two in but it's the neighbors fence and he keeps telling me he's going to change the panels and he is also not keen on me drilling into his pillars for wiring. I understand that, the ones at the top end are loose and need work. I've gone for mostly shrub roses but have got 3 obelisks in there to add a bit of height.
I've had my plans changed several times. The first when i'd placed my order it included one Jude the Obscure and half a dozen Darcy Bussells. I noticed both had been archived by DA and decided to just get healthier plants, so changed my order.
Then my good woman got involved. After years of saying she'll sort what we'll have in the house and i can have my way in the garden, she soon changed her mind when she see it all dug and ready to plant lol. She lost her mum through dementia a few months back and wanted something for her. She wanted her favourite colours in there so she chose Bring Me Sunshine in/around an obelisk with a few Blue For You in front of it. I'm not sure that will work but it's what she wants and who am i to argue.
Then we both wanted something for wildlife added in. We both wanted butterflies in so added Buddleja 'Butterfly Candy Little Purple'. We've also left a space for a Salvia Amistad plant, in hope of seeing a Hummingbird Moth coming in. We also have Allium Drumsticks and Allium Globemaster in there
So there's no real colour scheme, no real stand out planting scheme. It's going to look like Josephs Coat of many colours and i'm just treating it as a collection of favourite plants now. A first time effort but i'll learn from it and always have the option of another border on the other side of the garden.
I have a few spaces left in the main border though and was thinking of looking for smaller salvia. Is there any truth in that it helps keep blackspot at bay?
I've just seen Ronnie O'Sullivan at the garden center. I think he was eyeing up a plant.
@HarryWhite, it is going to look very beautiful. Roses somehow mingle well together and overall it would be great. Good thing about garden is, it is ever changing and evolving. It changes and we change and that is the whole fun. It is not that patio that is once in and that's that.
@HarryWhite your rose border is going to be fantastic in a few years time. Remember they say that the roses sleep, creep and then leap in the first few years. Take care of your health.
Most of my roses are now done for this season, I have cut the few remaining blooms for the vase. Here are 2 photos I took before cutting them off: Evelyn May Arthur Bell Edited to add the posy of roses - a few HTs, Arthur Bell and Ulmer Munster.
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And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth
*So there's no real colour scheme, no real stand out planting scheme. It's going to look like Josephs Coat of many colours and i'm just treating it as a collection of favourite plants now.*
But worth getting Darcey B if you can, I think. I wouldn't take DA's words at face value over the merits of the roses they discontinued. Several, such as Darcey Bussell, Sir Walter Scott and Crown Princess Margareta, have "excellent" ratings on helpmefind (from growers around the world).
That’s how short I remember my PBs looking like, including a two-cane puny stump that took 2 years of nursing to catch up, so I hope your Grosvenor House does better @Victoria Sponge. At least you can say they practice what they preach in the pruning department!
@HarryWhite, I don’t think anyone has planted a new border without moving and changing things around, all part of the fun. Roses or any plant do have a habit of growing bigger than stated sizes, I have a feeling Blue for You does that.
I kind of wish mine would finish flowering and fade into dormancy now @Eustace, I have a lot of shifting around to do and I’m itching to get going. It was 3c this morning but warm days keep them going, so I’ll end up having to pot up the new bare roots.
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@Nollie I had an idea to put Grosvenor House in a pot for the first year just as I am moving another rose out of its space and I thought I’d let the soil lie fallow. Now having seen it I think it is an excellent idea as in its current state I think it would get swamped by the nearby planted daffs😉
I hope it will do well anyway, I think it is @Busy-Lizzie who has a GH and has spoken well of it (and you know I like a nice yellow 🙂)
As do I now @Victoria Sponge, you wouldn’t know I used to dislike yellow roses given my burgeoning collection! I agree a pot is a good shout for that one.
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I do have a Grosvenor House rose, @Victoria Sponge, from Peter Beales in the Norfolk garden, OH's cottage which isn't far from Peter Beales. I saw them there and liked it.
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Thanks @owd potter. I am back at around 80% which will do
That long empty bed is looking hugely exciting @HarryWhite, looking forward to progress.
I have quite a few once flowerers @WhereAreMySecateurs, and I'm quite fond of them. Yes, you are right about the flushes - I reckon I get a good 3 weeks out of them, but heavy flowering, not dribs and drabs and as a result when they are flowering they make an impact. The Gallicas I have look good when they are not in flower also which helps, they are generally healthy, a nice shape and covered in leaves. The Albas I have are tall with thin canes and less leafy but I still think they have a certain charm. I only have a couple of Mosses and they are in weird places so I can't make a proper judgement. I have one damask Leda, which I'm happy with so far (two summers). The only issue I have had so far is summer storms. If it rains heavily for a week or winds knock the roses over they don't have a chance to recover.
Hope you are feeling better @newbie77
My second root delivery, this one from Beales, Black Prince, Ely Cathedral, Grosvenor House (2 canes
Sorry for the delayed reply (i need to learn how to multi quote).
I finally got most of my border planted yesterday. I got hit with Covid on Wednesday, for the first time, really bad timing as i had the days booked off work to plant my bare roots. This meant a delay and i was getting concerned about the length of time i had them packaged up. 10 days in total before i could get them in the ground. I believe that should be ok, borderline but i did keep check the roots were wet.
I'm feeling a bit disappointed with some of the decisions that i made now. Apple trees were mentioned and that was a good idea, i could of put some step overs in there. I guess any fruit and veg that i could of planted in there would of been ideal with food prices and wildlife etc. But it's roses that i've fallen for.
Climbers have also been mentioned and i would of loved to have put one or two in but it's the neighbors fence and he keeps telling me he's going to change the panels and he is also not keen on me drilling into his pillars for wiring. I understand that, the ones at the top end are loose and need work. I've gone for mostly shrub roses but have got 3 obelisks in there to add a bit of height.
I've had my plans changed several times. The first when i'd placed my order it included one Jude the Obscure and half a dozen Darcy Bussells. I noticed both had been archived by DA and decided to just get healthier plants, so changed my order.
Then my good woman got involved. After years of saying she'll sort what we'll have in the house and i can have my way in the garden, she soon changed her mind when she see it all dug and ready to plant lol.
She lost her mum through dementia a few months back and wanted something for her. She wanted her favourite colours in there so she chose Bring Me Sunshine in/around an obelisk with a few Blue For You in front of it. I'm not sure that will work but it's what she wants and who am i to argue.
Then we both wanted something for wildlife added in. We both wanted butterflies in so added Buddleja 'Butterfly Candy Little Purple'. We've also left a space for a Salvia Amistad plant, in hope of seeing a Hummingbird Moth coming in. We also have Allium Drumsticks and Allium Globemaster in there
So there's no real colour scheme, no real stand out planting scheme. It's going to look like Josephs Coat of many colours and i'm just treating it as a collection of favourite plants now.
A first time effort but i'll learn from it and always have the option of another border on the other side of the garden.
I have a few spaces left in the main border though and was thinking of looking for smaller salvia. Is there any truth in that it helps keep blackspot at bay?
A great way of putting it and i'm sure there will be changes. I must learn to take cuttings too. I'm already looking forward to May now
@newbie77 wishing you too a speedy recovery.
Most of my roses are now done for this season, I have cut the few remaining blooms for the vase. Here are 2 photos I took before cutting them off:
Evelyn May
Arthur Bell
Edited to add the posy of roses - a few HTs, Arthur Bell and Ulmer Munster.
Just my kind of garden.
But worth getting Darcey B if you can, I think. I wouldn't take DA's words at face value over the merits of the roses they discontinued. Several, such as Darcey Bussell, Sir Walter Scott and Crown Princess Margareta, have "excellent" ratings on helpmefind (from growers around the world).
@Eustace, I love your Evelyn May, wow.
@Victoria Sponge thank you so much for the words on once-flowerers. I think I have to take the plunge and try Charles de Mills
@HarryWhite, I don’t think anyone has planted a new border without moving and changing things around, all part of the fun. Roses or any plant do have a habit of growing bigger than stated sizes, I have a feeling Blue for You does that.
I kind of wish mine would finish flowering and fade into dormancy now @Eustace, I have a lot of shifting around to do and I’m itching to get going. It was 3c this morning but warm days keep them going, so I’ll end up having to pot up the new bare roots.
I hope it will do well anyway, I think it is @Busy-Lizzie who has a GH and has spoken well of it (and you know I like a nice yellow 🙂)