'Botzaris' is still available too. Once flowering and a bit floppy, but blooms well in the first year.. with the classic button eye.. 'Macmillan Nurse' offers a very similar look on a modern rose, but I think lacks a bit of charm..
..it stood up to wet weather better than I expected,..
I recall you said Botzaris was better than Mme. Hardy Marlorena. Certainly looks like it, the Madam had disappointing scent for me, just vaguely grassy. I probably didn’t give it enough time to mature and toughen up but the delicate petals went translucent in rain, you can see it starting to happen here after only a light shower:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I'd really appreciate some advice, please, about the roses which came today from TCL. They were despatched on December 29th so have been hanging about a while en route, in a black plastic sack in a strong cardboard box. They mostly look pretty good, though many have produced etiolated white shoots like 'Scepter'd Isle' on the right in the photo, and some also have white new growth on their roots. The rose on the left is 'Falstaff' and appears the weakest - it has some mould on ends of stems as well as quite a bit of dieback.
Apologies for the poor photograph - it's been bucketing with rain all day... I've had them soaking in a trug of water and will plant some and pot the others tomorrow.
My question really is this. How hard should I be pruning them? I'm guessing I should prune off anything which is producing those white shoots, and any dieback, but any other recommendations would be very welcome. The others are Eustacia Vye, Jude the Obscure, Kew Gardens, Munstead Wood, Lady of Shalott, Ancient Mariner, Wollerton OH and Vanessa Bell.
Thanks in advance...
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
@Liriodendron Yeah, they're ok, looking good... nothing much to worry about at all just a bit of tlc.. there are several options but the simplest is to do this.. Don't worry about where you cut too much, just above a bud if you can see one, or not it's not a problem.. new roses benefit from a bit of pruning like this, it won't hurt them..
...if you're not happy to do that, well I would certainly do Falstaff because those dead tops need coming off.. but the one on the right, those little white shoots will usually turn green when they get light and nutrients, or you could just pick them off with your fingers.. all roses have 3 dormant buds to a node, the central one is dominant so breaks first, but if it loses that, one of the other 2 will break later on.. If mine I would just prune them as shown..
According to Facebook, the DA handbook of roses isn't ready and won't be sent out before mid-to-late Feb and info about any new roses won't drop till spring. Can't say I am anxious to buy the new releases esp if named King Charles or Coronation, but am definitely curious!
Those TCL roses look amazing.
Pope George Ringo arrived and it is fine... infinitely better than the other rose I got from eBay that one time.
It looks a quality bare root, but it's taken me 2 hours to figure out the cryptic clue in the name.. I've been thinking, I've not heard of this rose before.. Very good !..
@WhereAreMySecateurs The rose seller to buy from on ebay is The Best Rose Man as this is Styles Roses. I think they also sell on Amazon as Gorgeous Garden Roses. Have to admit it took me a moment to get you Pope George Ringo reference. And then it hit me.
What are the odds that the new DA roses will be either pink or yellow.
I noticed that you have used TCL - would you recommend them or should I look somewhere else? As I am buying quite a few roses the shipping is quite good, as are their prices.
This is for the Zepherine Drouhin and the Mme. Alfred Carriere.
Anyone else who has used TCL before, I would be grateful to hear your experiences, as never ordered from NL before for roses (bulbs yes, roses no).
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'Botzaris' is still available too. Once flowering and a bit floppy, but blooms well in the first year.. with the classic button eye.. 'Macmillan Nurse' offers a very similar look on a modern rose, but I think lacks a bit of charm..
..it stood up to wet weather better than I expected,..
Apologies for the poor photograph - it's been bucketing with rain all day...
I've had them soaking in a trug of water and will plant some and pot the others tomorrow.
My question really is this. How hard should I be pruning them? I'm guessing I should prune off anything which is producing those white shoots, and any dieback, but any other recommendations would be very welcome. The others are Eustacia Vye, Jude the Obscure, Kew Gardens, Munstead Wood, Lady of Shalott, Ancient Mariner, Wollerton OH and Vanessa Bell.
Thanks in advance...
Yeah, they're ok, looking good... nothing much to worry about at all just a bit of tlc.. there are several options but the simplest is to do this..
Don't worry about where you cut too much, just above a bud if you can see one, or not it's not a problem.. new roses benefit from a bit of pruning like this, it won't hurt them..
...if you're not happy to do that, well I would certainly do Falstaff because those dead tops need coming off.. but the one on the right, those little white shoots will usually turn green when they get light and nutrients, or you could just pick them off with your fingers.. all roses have 3 dormant buds to a node, the central one is dominant so breaks first, but if it loses that, one of the other 2 will break later on..
If mine I would just prune them as shown..
All good !..
I'm so looking forward to growing some roses. This thread is really inspiring!
Those TCL roses look amazing.
Pope George Ringo arrived and it is fine... infinitely better than the other rose I got from eBay that one time.
I've been thinking, I've not heard of this rose before..
Very good !..
Have to admit it took me a moment to get you Pope George Ringo reference. And then it hit me.
Anyone else who has used TCL before, I would be grateful to hear your experiences, as never ordered from NL before for roses (bulbs yes, roses no).