@Woodgreen I refill the david austin / style roses ones, and I got the same size from amazon too I will check size, but potted up they are fine in there somewhere sheltered over winter I find, e.g against a wall.
@Nollie Thank you! Dad thought Id brought them! I like to give homegrown/ arranged flowers as gifts and have done a few flower arranging courses so I like to have a few bits in to fancy them up!
Thanks @JessicaS. I didn't realise yours would be bare root, sorry. I'm expecting two potted Munstead Wood and thought I would pot them on for the winter -- do you think this would be okay, putting them into a slightly bigger pot than the ones they arrive in?
@cooldoc Thats a shame about the newer harkness. Ive got a few of their older ones like Sweet Syrie, which never gets blackspot and mountbatten which is always glossy and healthy too. I found the recent 95th celebration is very spotted and the ants are farming aphids on it too.
@Woodgreen they should be fine in the pots they arrive in, but a bigger pots fine if you have one, roses are really tough so as long as the roots arent exposed they will be fine. My ones that stay in pots are in the homebase / b&q terracotta coloured ones and I get the 43cm ish ones, with trays under for summer to catch water.
As the bare root planting season is now upon us, I recall a post from earlier in summer attaching a page from a Beales guide (I think) which seemed to suggest that upon planting a bare root plant should then be further hard pruned. Do I recall and understand this correctly, that a bare root rose delivered with say approx 9-12" canes, should then be pruned further?, and by how much? Does anyone do this with their newly planted bare roots?
I find red tones fiendishly difficult to capture accurately @Tack. TP and MW are pretty spot on for me in that photo but Soul is a deeper, richer colour in reality and they all look different again according to the light. Here they are again brought indoors with Soul looking more washed out:
@owd potter it might have been me but I can’t remember, was it this? Last time I got roses from Beales they were already hard pruned to about 4-6”. If you are in the cold reaches of Scotland and/or get very frosty winters like me I would be inclined to leave any further cutting back until spring since the tips inevitably die back further:
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I'll wait for advice on the above as my GdeF has just been delivered - and it's much bigger than anticipated! It's still got leaves on so is definitely not dormant. Crumbs!
I don't see why it wouldn't grow from the base in future years though, I've never re-pruned any of my roses before planting.
Hiya @Nollie, Yes that's it. The second paragraph there I think. The golden rule. "no matter what size of plants are received...prune very hard after receiving" It seems extreme to further hard prune a bare root plant that may be delivered with well pruned short canes anyway, but it is advice from a well respected source. So does anyone do so?
Well as my oldest new roses are now only in their 2nd year I'm a relative new comer to roses, and I did not further prune any of them on planting, so when I saw this advice earlier it captured my attention. I also don't recall seeing many, if any, new basals on any of my roses, which may lend support to the piece. I'm interested to hear the views or experiences of others on this
I might do @owd potter if its a tall, spindly specimen but only after planting and only in spring/before it starts putting out new growth. If it arrives already hard pruned, no need. Bear in mind you will lose a few inches when burying the graft. If it has strong, thick canes to begin with, I don’t really see the need but I get his point that growth starts at the top. I think it’s back to his earlier comments, about using common sense and a feeling for the plant, plus what you want the rose to do. Everyone has different approaches, but it’s probably good advice to follow if you want a shorter, bushier rose.
@Lizzie27, as GdF is a climber and it’s pretty strong and vigorous anyway, I think I would prune off that dead bit on the right and plant it as it is. I must stress I’m not a pruning guru, I just go with what looks and feels right!
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@Nollie Thank you! Dad thought Id brought them!
I'm expecting two potted Munstead Wood and thought I would pot them on for the winter -- do you think this would be okay, putting them into a slightly bigger pot than the ones they arrive in?
@Woodgreen they should be fine in the pots they arrive in, but a bigger pots fine if you have one, roses are really tough so as long as the roots arent exposed they will be fine. My ones that stay in pots are in the homebase / b&q terracotta coloured ones and I get the 43cm ish ones, with trays under for summer to catch water.
Do I recall and understand this correctly, that a bare root rose delivered with say approx 9-12" canes, should then be pruned further?, and by how much?
Does anyone do this with their newly planted bare roots?
I find red tones fiendishly difficult to capture accurately @Tack. TP and MW are pretty spot on for me in that photo but Soul is a deeper, richer colour in reality and they all look different again according to the light. Here they are again brought indoors with Soul looking more washed out:
@owd potter it might have been me but I can’t remember, was it this? Last time I got roses from Beales they were already hard pruned to about 4-6”. If you are in the cold reaches of Scotland and/or get very frosty winters like me I would be inclined to leave any further cutting back until spring since the tips inevitably die back further:
I don't see why it wouldn't grow from the base in future years though, I've never re-pruned any of my roses before planting.
Yes that's it. The second paragraph there I think. The golden rule. "no matter what size of plants are received...prune very hard after receiving"
It seems extreme to further hard prune a bare root plant that may be delivered with well pruned short canes anyway, but it is advice from a well respected source.
So does anyone do so?
I don't think I'm going to do it to GdeF given that it's supposed to be a vigorous rambler.
Be interesting to learn what OP's think.
I also don't recall seeing many, if any, new basals on any of my roses, which may lend support to the piece.
I'm interested to hear the views or experiences of others on this
@Lizzie27, as GdF is a climber and it’s pretty strong and vigorous anyway, I think I would prune off that dead bit on the right and plant it as it is. I must stress I’m not a pruning guru, I just go with what looks and feels right!