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  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    @wild edges.
    You obviously feel people are striking partly due to Brexit, I don’t but happy to be educated as to why the strikes are Brexit related.
    People are striking for better wages due to the cost of living crisis that is being directly caused by factors including Brexit. How hard is that to understand?

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    France has capped the electricity price to a rise of 4%, it will be capped at 15% next year.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    I apologise if I am muddying the waters because I am not too sure what I am looking at but this link shows, I think, quite different prices.

    https://www.epexspot.com/en/market-data
    Rutland, England
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    edited September 2022
     

    Accurate at 24/08/22 … 

    anyone got an explanation that doesn’t include Brexit? 


    I don't know there's a clear cause and effect of this being because of Brexit, but the government certainly know how to use Brexit to deflect and distract from their own policy choices.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • I believe Eu inflation is currently 9.1% vs UK is 8.6% and things are not rosey here. The EU cannot blame brexit for their strikes and cost of living discord. Brexit has caused many issues for many people and  again i dont believe this is the cause of the strikes (or electricity prices). I feel this is getting away from the topic of the thread so I will take my leave as we will need to agree to disagree on this.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    The BBC says "Fuel prices have increased sharply because the price for crude oil, which is used to make petrol and diesel, has gone up.

    Crude oil was cheaper at the beginning of the Covid pandemic, because many businesses temporarily closed and demand for energy collapsed.

    As life returned to normal, the demand for energy increased. But suppliers have struggled to keep up and prices have risen.

    Another problem is that the oil used to make petrol is paid for in US dollars. The pound has been weak against the dollar, making fuel even more expensive."

    If oil goes up then petrol goes up which makes delivery more expensive to all delivered goods go up in price.

    The war in Ukraine has made the price of food go up, such as wheat and sunflower oil. Russia supplies a lot of gas to Europe so that is now limited because of the war so the price has gone up.

    All of Europe and also the US are suffering inflation at the moment so it's not just because of Brexit, although Brexit hasn't helped.

    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Certain unions have militants in charge. Bringing down the so called rich means that there is no one to invest in business and pay peoples wages unless you have communism. Take Russia. Certain people in charge become very rich. Millions are still peasants.   If you study economics at a very basic level, you would realise that inflation has only been so low because wages have been held down, with lots of black market employees  paid less than living wage .  Wages need to rise. Inflation will increase.  Then it will all level off again.  If you lived through the 70's with inflation at 15%, you will understand.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    mac12 said:
    The reason I started this thread is because I watched on YouTube a speech by the 2nd in charge of the RMT saying how workers needed to bring down the rich and powerful, how he wanted more council housing and quiet a few other things but he never said anything about the people who bought the council houses giving them back. 
    I can't see how wanting new council houses means that people who bought their council houses in the past have to give them back?

    And it is about time our system was less rigged in the favour of the rich and powerful. We're the 5th richest country in the world, but this is skewed by the earnings of the top 1%. If you look at the low to average earner, we are more like an emerging market, such as Slovenia. But we are not emerging, we are regressing. Shortly we are going to fall behind Poland, so Polish immigrants will effectively take a hit to their disposable income when they come to the UK.

    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • PerkiPerki Posts: 2,527
    edited September 2022
    That graph ( Dove ) isn't even remotely accurate.

    They isn't even a link with Brexit and the strikes I haven't heard one even mention brexit. It very clear the increase of energy demand since the Covid crises already caused a spike , add on cutting off one of the largest energy produces on the plant due to the Ukraine war  increased energy 400% or what ever it is . 

    Comparing the UK to France isn't even a fair reflection on where the energy is coming from , they have nuclear power plants all over the place . As EmptyHT has mentioned inflation is even higher in some EU country's  
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    Strikes, and protests and riots happen when:
    1 Sufficient people feel a sense of injustice.
    2 They have no other means of effecting change.
    3 They can get away with it. ie, not be imprisoned or shot etc.
    4 There's a chance of success.

    Oil, Brexit, Covid - could be the black death or the Tolpuddle dispute or press-ganged sailors. It's the conditions that count and the way they are perceived.
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