@KT53 do you know a lot of young people? I do and most of them work hard, the days when moms stayed at home to look after the house and children are long gone so both parents have to go out to work as well as bringing up children and maintaining a clean and tidy home. One wage isn’t enough these days.
Let’s be honest nobody wants to work hard and get their hands dirty for minimum wage on a zero hours contract but many young people have no choice.
I expect they do want to be influencers, didn’t you want to be an astronaut or an actor or some other glamorous job. We can all dream.
You took the words right out of my mouth @debs64 👍
@KT53 s description is nothing like the many hardworking youngsters we know. After all, they’re mostly busy holding down jobs as well as doing their Uni courses … no grants for them. 😢
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
All the 18 - 40 year olds in my social sphere are decent, hardworking people. Not one of them has claimed any benefits other than maternity and not one spends much time sat on their rear ends. The fact that some of them have got onto the housing ladder in London and Surrey (without parental help) within the last 5 years is testament to their ethics of earning hard and saving the proceeds. Those ones are all now dab hands at DIY & gardening too!
Some are in lower paid jobs like retail and child care, others in better paid such as accountants and team managers, one is a social worker (children) and another a police sergeant. Some left school at 16. Several went to university but they had to pay full fees, living expenses etc. None of their parents could pay all costs so they all had one or two jobs to pay for their education. Some did gap years / trips but not a single one relied on parents paying for them to go.
I HATE sweeping generalisations about any group in society.
Heaven is ... sitting in the garden with a G&T and a cat while watching the sun go down
There are alot of pensioners that could pay a gardener a proper wage but prefer not to that is why they finish up with a hacker who doesn't know a weed from a plant. You get what you pay for.
Gardening is profession that since Victorian times has been seen as lowly. When I started out I could have earned more money as a cleaner. As any gardener knows you are driven by what you do and you also have a special skill.
Over time I worked for people who in return shared their expertise, a group of them were well known locally for their gardens and one at a national level. I am proud of what I achieved in my working life and I know I am very lucky to be able to say that.
I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
There are alot of pensioners that could pay a gardener a proper wage but prefer not to that is why they finish up with a hacker who doesn't know a weed from a plant. You get what you pay for.
Gardening is profession that since Victorian times has been seen as lowly. When I started out I could have earned more money as a cleaner. As any gardener knows you are driven by what you do and you also have a special skill.
Over time I worked for people who in return shared their expertise, a group of them were well known locally for their gardens and one at a national level. I am proud of what I achieved in my working life and I know I am very lucky to be able to say that.
Virtually identical to my own experiences as a gardener. In the end I had a waiting list of folk " if you ever decide to leave one of your gardens......."
@Hostafan1 Just to add 'if you ever decide to come out of retirement'....... has been another request. I really want to pass on some of the things I have learnt over the years from some real expert gardeners. This forum is just one opportunity.
I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
I've just raised my rate to £17 per hour. Two customers have raised it for me to £20 an hour... I've kept a couple of pensioners that really can't afford more on £15. I'm a plants person not a mow and blow type. I'm in Ipswich, hope that helps.
My mate charges £20 per hour if he supplies all tools etc. If stuff needs to be cleared from site , that's extra as he has to pay £120 a ton to dispose of stuff LEGALLY.
part of the problem is that many of us oldies don't want to pay a gardener a " professional " wage. Gardeners are still considered " domestic staff " by many people.
For many oldies it isn't a case of "don't want to", it's a case of "can't afford to". I certainly couldn't afford to pay the wage of a professional gardener.
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@KT53 s description is nothing like the many hardworking youngsters we know. After all, they’re mostly busy holding down jobs as well as doing their Uni courses … no grants for them. 😢
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Some are in lower paid jobs like retail and child care, others in better paid such as accountants and team managers, one is a social worker (children) and another a police sergeant. Some left school at 16. Several went to university but they had to pay full fees, living expenses etc. None of their parents could pay all costs so they all had one or two jobs to pay for their education. Some did gap years / trips but not a single one relied on parents paying for them to go.
I HATE sweeping generalisations about any group in society.
Gardening is profession that since Victorian times has been seen as lowly. When I started out I could have earned more money as a cleaner. As any gardener knows you are driven by what you do and you also have a special skill.
Over time I worked for people who in return shared their expertise, a group of them were well known locally for their gardens and one at a national level. I am proud of what I achieved in my working life and I know I am very lucky to be able to say that.
In the end I had a waiting list of folk " if you ever decide to leave one of your gardens......."
I'm in Ipswich, hope that helps.
If stuff needs to be cleared from site , that's extra as he has to pay £120 a ton to dispose of stuff LEGALLY.
For many oldies it isn't a case of "don't want to", it's a case of "can't afford to". I certainly couldn't afford to pay the wage of a professional gardener.