@Tack I don't know about online resources for this sort of thing, I just go from my own experience, and that of others, some old books maybe, but with most older type ramblers people grow, like Alberic Barbier and Alexandre Girault, two of the best ones for repeat flowering, they will not rebloom on new wood produced on long canes from the base, those are for next season, but will reflower from the same laterals that produced the first flush of blooms.. providing those laterals are not cut out at midsummer.. Rebloom is scant but enough to regard those roses as somewhat recurrent..
With GdeF, it's different, this rose will flower not only from old wood, but from new basal canes that shoot up during the summer, they will have buds on the top of them..
@murasaki .. well obviously I don't know your gardening conditions with such heat in summer, but you should start to see recurrent blooming on your rose unless the excessive heat stops it, I wouldn't know about that.. otherwise you should be able to prune to size but any long growth you see developing should have bud clusters at the tops and from laterals for autumn flowering..
I've grown HT roses for quite sometime now; but never paid much attention other than their spring feed, cutting them for the vase indoors and taking photos ;-). I have misplaced most of the labels of these HT roses too. So based on my meagre hands-on experience, I'll try to answer @Nollie's questions.
>> What would you say is the average break
between flushes?
If they are deadheaded as soon as the flowers go over, I have seen many HT roses reblooming in a few weeks. Some like Arthur Bell, Queen Elizabeth etc. are almost always in flower, as there are many canes that take their turns. I have noticed that ones with fairly big blooms like Blue Moon, Duftzauber, Dame de Coeur take about a month for the next flush to grow.
>> Do they get better with age?
I haven't noticed that. The first flush is definitely the most floriferous.
>> Are some a much faster
repeat than others?
Yes, as I have mentioned above some are fast and furious. I have a multi-coloured rose (the blooms are yellow/red/pink/orange) - Masquerade (I think it is that!) rose, that is continously in flower throughout the season. The flowers last long too - I haven't made a note of the exact number of days they are open, but they are definitely hanging in there longer than a week.
Thanks @Marlorena for the tip regarding deadheading GdeF for more flowers.
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'Nye Bevan'.. 'Forever Royal'.. 'Mutabilis'.. ..little creatures having lunch on GdeF.. like synchronised swimmers... ..a scene.. typically Dionysian..Â
My only roses that are *always* in flower are Boule de Neige, Arthur Bell and the Lady of Shalott. Hopefully more will join their ranks with time. Â One rose that has impressed me with its mega-fast regearing-up is the Rose des Cisterciens. It's a mass of buds again only a fortnight or so after the first flush ended. A Delbard rose though... not sure how that's classified.
Agree with Eustace that Arthur Bell has a zillion canes! There are three new red ones today that I don't think were there a week ago.
Marlorena, yes, definitely can smell pepper from Adam Messerich now you mention it. It also smells a bit- nautical? Not sure, reminds me of something to do with my grandad. He always carried fruit sherbets, though, so it might just be that, lol
Nollie, I agree with your idea of a vote for the agreed thread name for That Rose.
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I don't know about online resources for this sort of thing, I just go from my own experience, and that of others, some old books maybe, but with most older type ramblers people grow, like Alberic Barbier and Alexandre Girault, two of the best ones for repeat flowering, they will not rebloom on new wood produced on long canes from the base, those are for next season, but will reflower from the same laterals that produced the first flush of blooms.. providing those laterals are not cut out at midsummer..
Rebloom is scant but enough to regard those roses as somewhat recurrent..
With GdeF, it's different, this rose will flower not only from old wood, but from new basal canes that shoot up during the summer, they will have buds on the top of them..
.. well obviously I don't know your gardening conditions with such heat in summer, but you should start to see recurrent blooming on your rose unless the excessive heat stops it, I wouldn't know about that.. otherwise you should be able to prune to size but any long growth you see developing should have bud clusters at the tops and from laterals for autumn flowering..
.. do you get any peppery scent from Adam Messerich? I did when I had it, I thought it unusual..
'Forever Royal'..
'Mutabilis'..
..little creatures having lunch on GdeF.. like synchronised swimmers...Â
..a scene.. typically Dionysian..Â
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One rose that has impressed me with its mega-fast regearing-up is the Rose des Cisterciens. It's a mass of buds again only a fortnight or so after the first flush ended. A Delbard rose though... not sure how that's classified.
Agree with Eustace that Arthur Bell has a zillion canes! There are three new red ones today that I don't think were there a week ago.
Marlorena, yes, definitely can smell pepper from Adam Messerich now you mention it. It also smells a bit- nautical? Not sure, reminds me of something to do with my grandad. He always carried fruit sherbets, though, so it might just be that, lol
Nollie, I agree with your idea of a vote for the agreed thread name for That Rose.
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