..gorgeous roses... totally dry here, soil is like dust even 2 feet down now.. I'm having to downsize as I can't keep up with watering.. back to grasses and drought plants by the looks of it..
For those growing 'GdeF'.. you should deadhead for repeat flower, you can cut back as much as you want at the same time, lengths of cane if you wish, as it reblooms on new wood. If you don't at least deadhead, repeat flowering will be limited or even non existent..
I don't grow Perennial Blue but according to Paul Zimmermann, who gardens in another country, for him it took 3 years to develop a repeat blooming habit, [GdeF can be similar for some people].. then he got 2 flushes, one late Spring, and another good flush in Autumn, but he emphasised the 3 years, which sounds right to me.. I would at least deadhead it and see what happens, shortening any lengths that got in my way or spoilt the shape.. It seems one needs patience.. both these roses do get better with age, immeasurably it seems..
As for HT's.. I would say it depends on the rose as always, some take an age and others soon shoot out with rebloom.. I'm not sure about getting better with age, not noticed that, as the ones I've had are quick off the block and give a good first year show if they don't get too much BS..
I have rain envy, hardly any over winter and precious little since means as dust here too. We have unmetered well water with good pressure, so cost isn’t an issue, but I do seem to be spending my life watering at the moment.
The HT’s I have are Deep Secret, Alexander and The Anniversary Rose. All dead as dodos at the moment @Marlorena. I suppose another question I should have asked everyone is ‘what are your best blooming HTs!’
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Thank you Marlorena, which resource could I look at to check which of my roses flower on old wood? I'm not sure I've seen this info in HMF but that doesn't mean it's not there! The discussion upthread about new buds appearing immediately behind spent ones has me pondering.
I can't help with HT rebloom Nollie, I've realised I deadhead and hope. When something was slow I never considered it was my fault. Oh the ignorance of the novice. As I learn I am fiddling with the roses much more, that may not be a good thing.
@Victoria Sponge The silvery leaf plant with yellow blooms is Jacobaea Maritima, very easy to grow from seed. Here it doesn't die back in winter, which it was a nice surprise.Â
@Nollie thanks for the MAC pics and info, i was the one with MAC ID troubles 😅 i am more and more convinced my rose is not Madame. How old is yours?
@Marlorena very useful info on taking care of GdF and other roses, thank you so much. If i grow mine as a bush, should i still cut the canes shorter? I have already deadheaded it. It is her second year here and of course no rebloom last autumn.Â
My first blooms on Rosa rugosa Hansa, very thrilled! The young shoots were decimated by some creature in spring, so i am very happy it did flower this year! Though it is very hot now and the petals don't last long...Â
@murasaki my apologies and also to @dabolem for my senior moment! Mine is only in its second season but currently in a pot awaiting a place somewhere as the original spot I wanted to put it had great big rocks under the surface. I’m not convinced yours is MAC either. There seem to have been a lot of mix-ups in nurseries this year, the aftermath of covid chaos and subsequent staff shortages, perhaps. Annoying though.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Thank you so much, Marlorena. I will deadhead and wait and see. I follow Paul Zimmerman on social media and love his YouTube videos especially. He has a nice one on different ways of pegging roses which I took actual paper notes from like a girly swot.
From the far end of my garden:
Arthur Bell (which never stops blooming, ever)
Rust-riddled Deelish/Anniversary/Tchekhov/Line Renaud/ Sweet Parfum d'etc in its pariah pot of shame:
Adam Messerich (from Trevor White). Scent doesn't waft but smells of berries. The blooms are larger than I expected- a good 5 inches.
Thanks Newbie. There is a lady in the nearby village that has a fabulous red one against a roughly south-east facing wall that always seems to be in bloom, but she didn’t know the name. I did once find one in the GC labelled Mr. Lincoln as opposed to the usual ‘red rose’ so it could’ve been that. Duftzauber (Royal William) might have been a better bet than deepest of the sleepers Deep Secret.
Well at least your rose of many names rust-ridden pariah is blooming, ‘Secateurs. Maybe we ought to have a vote to settle on a single name for it, would save on the typing!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
My Mr Lincoln gives me couple of sample flowers and thats it for the year. It has only 1-2 main canes. I have planted poor thing in shade without giving much space so not completely its fault.Â
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For those growing 'GdeF'.. you should deadhead for repeat flower, you can cut back as much as you want at the same time, lengths of cane if you wish, as it reblooms on new wood. If you don't at least deadhead, repeat flowering will be limited or even non existent..
I don't grow Perennial Blue but according to Paul Zimmermann, who gardens in another country, for him it took 3 years to develop a repeat blooming habit, [GdeF can be similar for some people].. then he got 2 flushes, one late Spring, and another good flush in Autumn, but he emphasised the 3 years, which sounds right to me.. I would at least deadhead it and see what happens, shortening any lengths that got in my way or spoilt the shape..
It seems one needs patience.. both these roses do get better with age, immeasurably it seems..
As for HT's.. I would say it depends on the rose as always, some take an age and others soon shoot out with rebloom.. I'm not sure about getting better with age, not noticed that, as the ones I've had are quick off the block and give a good first year show if they don't get too much BS..
The HT’s I have are Deep Secret, Alexander and The Anniversary Rose. All dead as dodos at the moment @Marlorena. I suppose another question I should have asked everyone is ‘what are your best blooming HTs!’
The silvery leaf plant with yellow blooms is Jacobaea Maritima, very easy to grow from seed. Here it doesn't die back in winter, which it was a nice surprise.Â
@Nollie
thanks for the MAC pics and info, i was the one with MAC ID troubles 😅 i am more and more convinced my rose is not Madame. How old is yours?
@Marlorena
very useful info on taking care of GdF and other roses, thank you so much. If i grow mine as a bush, should i still cut the canes shorter? I have already deadheaded it. It is her second year here and of course no rebloom last autumn.Â
My first blooms on Rosa rugosa Hansa, very thrilled! The young shoots were decimated by some creature in spring, so i am very happy it did flower this year! Though it is very hot now and the petals don't last long...Â
Very cute Penny Lane buds
I also deadhead and hope.Â
From the far end of my garden:
Arthur Bell (which never stops blooming, ever)
Rust-riddled Deelish/Anniversary/Tchekhov/Line Renaud/ Sweet Parfum d'etc in its pariah pot of shame:
Adam Messerich (from Trevor White). Scent doesn't waft but smells of berries. The blooms are larger than I expected- a good 5 inches.
Well at least your rose of many names rust-ridden pariah is blooming, ‘Secateurs. Maybe we ought to have a vote to settle on a single name for it, would save on the typing!