@andrewnewton They are both quite similar in ways…colour, strong perfume, two main flushes, prickly…Mme Isaac Pereire I feel is a more opulent but also more disease prone than Gertrude Jekyll. However it’s quite a romantic rose.Â
Lots of purple/pinks/reds going on here... a salvia in the foreground, I'm not sure which type as it was a supermarket cheapy. Then there is one of the 'flower carpet' varieties, HT 'Timeless Charisma', 'Gertrude Jekyll', 'Thomas A Beckett' (disappointingly floppy again, it's on borrowed time) and a few blooms of 'Charles de Mills'.
Has anyone here grown the climber Galway Bay and do you have thoughts about putting in on a fence that just gets 3 or 4 hours of morning sun?
Andrew, my mother's Madame Isaac Pereire completely covers a 6ftx6ft fence panel and it's a very ruffled, deep reddish pink- a beauty. It looks very prim and proper somehow. My Gertrude Js are new but a different pink, lovely though, and the scent wafts a long way, eye-catchingly pretty in the sun. Haven't grown it long enough to be annoyed by its idiosyncrasies (rest between repeat, thorns, wild mind of their own canes) so I flat out love it without reservation. It doesn't look either prim or proper.
My youngest got very upset before school as she thought we'd been eating strawberry chocolate without her. Turns out she could smell the single Eustacia Vye bud sitting in a glass on the mantelpiece.Â
Clockwise from left: Twice in a Blue Moon, Walferdange, Queen of Sweden, L'aimant, Darcey Brussel, Vanessa Bell, Unknown HT with Charlotte in the centre. Westerland, Norwich Castle, Crown Princess Margarita and Bordure Abricot.
Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth
@andrewnewton, Gertrude grows very upright for me on thick, stiff canes and throws out a lot of new basals every year. It will form a dense thicket if I don’t regularly thin it and doesn’t need any support. I think it’s better freestanding or against a wall, I wouldn’t want to grapple with it on an obelisk, especially with those thorns!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Thanks for providing the information. Based on this I think I'll go for Mme IP. She seems a little more manageable for the area I have in mind That's why this thread is so great, it fills in the gaps the catalogues don't tell you !!
That's a huge improvement @Omori, at least you can see the blooms. I will give that a go. It would be a great shame to get rid of it because it is, as your photo shows, a really lovely rose. How tall is yours growing, it appears quite a height in the photo.
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Either one I would pair with a clematis.Â
Andrew, my mother's Madame Isaac Pereire completely covers a 6ftx6ft fence panel and it's a very ruffled, deep reddish pink- a beauty. It looks very prim and proper somehow. My Gertrude Js are new but a different pink, lovely though, and the scent wafts a long way, eye-catchingly pretty in the sun. Haven't grown it long enough to be annoyed by its idiosyncrasies (rest between repeat, thorns, wild mind of their own canes) so I flat out love it without reservation. It doesn't look either prim or proper.
My youngest got very upset before school as she thought we'd been eating strawberry chocolate without her. Turns out she could smell the single Eustacia Vye bud sitting in a glass on the mantelpiece.Â
Westerland, Norwich Castle, Crown Princess Margarita and Bordure Abricot.
Thanks for providing the information. Based on this I think I'll go for Mme IP. She seems a little more manageable for the area I have in mindÂ
That's why this thread is so great, it fills in the gaps the catalogues don't tell you !!
This is a terrible photo but gives an idea: