@Oliya It has taken three years for my roses to reach a more mature state. As I’m often adding new ones, then I’m constantly in a state of having baby/juvenile roses that haven’t reached their full potential yet. It’s amazing how much they change as they settle in. Just keep tending to your garden and you’ll be rewarded when the roses are ready Â
Did you have any further thoughts on replacing your Ena Harkness, Fire?
No, not really. I'm not an indecisive person, but I'm finding myself all over the place with roses - I change my mind every week with rose plans. I think I just don't know enough and get caught up in waves of thrilling visions that change. I still don't know if trying to train a rambler around a door is a daft idea.
I don't type much as I am on phone usually but everyday I read this thread and enjoy your photos and read how everything is going on. My BMS is mostly yellow too, the center is deeper colour for partly opened rose but it is deeper yellow not orange.It's just camera which is showing orange.
@cooldoc@Omori Thank you for your kind support I guess I’m not the most patient person when it comes to gardening…Â
One rose I am very happy with is Tango Showground (I got it bare root from Style Roses this spring). It’s all covered it buds! Although flowers are a little bit smaller than I anticipated, I think it’ll looks really striking when most of them open:)
I didn’t write here for a very long time, what with long covid and other issues, but I’ve been reading and looking at your beautiful roses and gardens (with great envy, I confess).
my garden is still a mess of work in progress, so I am not going to show you any picture of it, not worthing believe me.
This is Belle Vichyssoise, a noisette, she is a late blooming with little blooms that last long anf don’t care for heat (we have been in a wave of hot weather since last week) and has a moderate and nice scent
Then I want to show you Desprez a Fleur Jaune, in my garden this rose is a very very slow growing, but I love her flowers and scent so much, so I’ll be patient and wait for her to grow
I chose to show you those two roses because they are the ones that are doing well in this heat and because I didn’t see any other photos of them in this veeeery long thread.
@Marlorena I see you have two roses I am very much interested in: Kew Gardens and Kathleen Harrop. Is it true they are thornless and repeating? Are they fast growing? If you don’t mind, I’d like to have any info you can give me about them. Thank you in advance!
Hi all, for those experiencing some rose crispiness in the UK’s current heat, it must be a bit of a shock to their system, especially for new roses. I can report that most roses do get more heat tolerant over time so don’t despair too much! Reds are tricky though, I’ve yet to meet one that doesn’t suffer in heat despite trying many, vowing never again then another one mysteriously pops up in my annual orders..
Got to over 40c by close of play yesterday and everything is really struggling, roses have mostly shut up shop and the grass is the colour of dried hay. Temps meant to be dropping below 30 next week so finger’s crossed. I have tentative hope for Alister Stella Gray, the little thing is bravely blooming and not suffering too much on a north-east facing fence:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@dabolem .. yes both are thornless and repeating, and both quite vigorous too.. KG has tiny prickles on the backs of leaf stalks, that's all, none on the canes..  you might find a very odd thorn on K Harrop, but it's very rare.. I prefer the colour of this to Zephirine Drouhin, it's a lovely light feminine pink..
You have two great climbing roses there, not often seen. I wish I had a wall big enough for one..Â
Good info about the crispiness there @Nollie, I have a rose with this for the first time. I keep wanting to call it Diamond Eyes but it is Midnight Blue, new this year and in a pot. Possibly a mixture of heat, dryness and winds. I thought about putting it in a shadier place next year as the pot is a bit heavy to move.
I have to say I think it is wonderful that people contribute extra bits of info about the habit or conditions of growing their roses. It is like reading a really honest helpful rose catalogue.
Thanks @newbie77 for the Q of S information, it was me who was querying it.
Lovely lighting in your last few batches of garden scenes photos @Mr. Vine Eye, it really adds to the atmosphere.
Welcome @Samjth_31 and @lynnphillips21 and anyone else I have missed. Your Churchill rose really got me thinking @lynnphillips21. I am after a creamish colour rose and I think yours is one of the best examples of Churchill I have seen.
@cooldoc and @Athelas, yes I have Draga the PG. It had one early flower and now I am waiting for the next which look like they might come in a batch, hopefully next weekend.
@Imprevu, I think you were asking about Rosengarten Zweibrucken. I have one but this is its first year and it is still determinedly in bud. Mine might not be the best comparison if you are affected by the weather in Spain (I suspect Sunderland isn't) but I will share some pictures when it flowers. First thoughts are it is not a weak rose, it is growing evenly with several pliable canes at the same length and from the amount of bud clusters I don't think it will be stingy.
I think it was @cooldoc who was considering a Rose de Rescht. I think my first year plant is wonderful and it is a great specimen for a pot. Has grown evenly so far and is flowering evenly also. My phone has made the first pic seem a little over yellow, it isn't really. Individual flowers are small but strongly scented (I haven't noticed a waft as yet but haven't spent much time around it). Mine is planted in relative gloom with only PM sun and seems ok with it.
This rose has come back from being almost dead. I am so pleased to see flowers on it once again. It doesn't stand up to all your gorgeous photos but represents triumph over adversity. My phone won't show the true blood red of the flower unfortunately, it looks rather pinky-red in my photo, but it's a true red in reality. I know someone else grows it on the thread, but can't remember who.
Thank you @Marlorena for your kind answer. Actually I already have Zephirine Drouhin on an arch side and was thinking to put Kathleen Harrop on the other side of the same arch. Do you think it’s too much both of them on a single arch? ZD is still very small, I put her only last year and she is only about 50 cm tall at the moment.
Kew Gardens is going on the spot where now there’s a Spiraea, which will be moved on the upper garden, or maybe prune shovel away as I am not so fond of it, it bloom only in spring and for the rest of the year is not so interesting to look at. KG is going to be between a Ballerina and a Mozart, and I think is perfect, color wise.
now, I would like to put a purple blue rose between Phyllis Bide and Lady Emma Hamilton. The spot is on the East and get only the morning sun. i though about Rhapsody in Blue, but I am not sure it can bloom well with only 4/5 hours of sun.
Any thought about a purple/blu rose shade tolerant and not very big to put there?
@Nollie we too in Italy are going through very high temps (36/38 celsius here in the North) and many roses are sleeping right now.Â
Also, my granpa had Alberic Barbier in his garden and it was luscious, even when it was without flowers. Very long lasting bloom and a beautiful apple scent. Now I have three cutting and planning to find a place in my garden fot them. It take some time to become so wonderful, you’d have to be patient with that rose.
@Victoria Sponge I agree about RdR, is almost alway with blooms and mine gets only the morning sun. Small flower but powerful scent!
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 Outside in daylight photo. It does smell great.
Thank you for your kind support
my garden is still a mess of work in progress, so I am not going to show you any picture of it, not worthing believe me.
This is Belle Vichyssoise, a noisette, she is a late blooming with little blooms that last long anf don’t care for heat (we have been in a wave of hot weather since last week) and has a moderate and nice scent
@Marlorena I see you have two roses I am very much interested in: Kew Gardens and Kathleen Harrop. Is it true they are thornless and repeating?
Are they fast growing? If you don’t mind, I’d like to have any info you can give me about them. Thank you in advance!
Got to over 40c by close of play yesterday and everything is really struggling, roses have mostly shut up shop and the grass is the colour of dried hay. Temps meant to be dropping below 30 next week so finger’s crossed. I have tentative hope for Alister Stella Gray, the little thing is bravely blooming and not suffering too much on a north-east facing fence:
.. yes both are thornless and repeating, and both quite vigorous too.. KG has tiny prickles on the backs of leaf stalks, that's all, none on the canes..  you might find a very odd thorn on K Harrop, but it's very rare.. I prefer the colour of this to Zephirine Drouhin, it's a lovely light feminine pink..
You have two great climbing roses there, not often seen. I wish I had a wall big enough for one..Â
I have to say I think it is wonderful that people contribute extra bits of info about the habit or conditions of growing their roses. It is like reading a really honest helpful rose catalogue.
Thanks @newbie77 for the Q of S information, it was me who was querying it.
Lovely lighting in your last few batches of garden scenes photos @Mr. Vine Eye, it really adds to the atmosphere.
Welcome @Samjth_31 and @lynnphillips21 and anyone else I have missed. Your Churchill rose really got me thinking @lynnphillips21. I am after a creamish colour rose and I think yours is one of the best examples of Churchill I have seen.
@cooldoc and @Athelas, yes I have Draga the PG. It had one early flower and now I am waiting for the next which look like they might come in a batch, hopefully next weekend.
@Imprevu, I think you were asking about Rosengarten Zweibrucken. I have one but this is its first year and it is still determinedly in bud. Mine might not be the best comparison if you are affected by the weather in Spain (I suspect Sunderland isn't) but I will share some pictures when it flowers. First thoughts are it is not a weak rose, it is growing evenly with several pliable canes at the same length and from the amount of bud clusters I don't think it will be stingy.
I think it was @cooldoc who was considering a Rose de Rescht. I think my first year plant is wonderful and it is a great specimen for a pot. Has grown evenly so far and is flowering evenly also. My phone has made the first pic seem a little over yellow, it isn't really. Individual flowers are small but strongly scented (I haven't noticed a waft as yet but haven't spent much time around it). Mine is planted in relative gloom with only PM sun and seems ok with it.
It doesn't stand up to all your gorgeous photos but represents triumph over adversity.
My phone won't show the true blood red of the flower unfortunately, it looks rather pinky-red in my photo, but it's a true red in reality.
I know someone else grows it on the thread, but can't remember who.
Kew Gardens is going on the spot where now there’s a Spiraea, which will be moved on the upper garden, or maybe prune shovel away as I am not so fond of it, it bloom only in spring and for the rest of the year is not so interesting to look at. KG is going to be between a Ballerina and a Mozart, and I think is perfect, color wise.
now, I would like to put a purple blue rose between Phyllis Bide and Lady Emma Hamilton. The spot is on the East and get only the morning sun. i though about Rhapsody in Blue, but I am not sure it can bloom well with only 4/5 hours of sun.
Any thought about a purple/blu rose shade tolerant and not very big to put there?
@Nollie we too in Italy are going through very high temps (36/38 celsius here in the North) and many roses are sleeping right now.Â
@Victoria Sponge I agree about RdR, is almost alway with blooms and mine gets only the morning sun. Small flower but powerful scent!