@ciaranmcgrenera, I would start tying them in as soon as they reach that first ring. That way you can start to train the canes in the direction you want them to grow while they are still thin and pliable. Good luck.
Cut the offending cane on Chandos Beauty and put the flowers in a jar indoors... so thanks for that @Marlorena. Also saw two adult vine weevils on it eeek! but at least better to know. Rudbeckia autumn forest seedlings and Senna Red pelargonium bud vase peeking behind, and an awful lot more on the floor. I've been threatened that anything not planted out in its proper position by this weekend is going in the bin....
Thankyou @newbie77 and @Nollie the rose was hoped for the 5th June, and has managed by the 1st, isn't it a star. The red is just what I wanted deep and dark, and is a bonus as only planted this spring, so didn't expect too much of it. Now it can grow into its space.
My climbing 'Graham Thomas' is producing some amazing looking blooms, they're as yellow as yellow can be. Although there are slightly more blooms each year it still isn't showing the vigour I would like to see, even though it's been mollycoddled and spoiled.
Oh she loses me most of the time @Marlorena. I recall she has acid rain so maybe the alkaline treatment helps balance things out. I agree things don’t always translate but yours is certainly looking much greener than mine. Glad you got your La France in the end. I wish TW shipped here, but so far I’m pretty pleased with my rose deliveries from various French nurseries, despite their habit of cutting back canes and roots hard.
That’s a stunning bloom @peteS, my GT doesn’t seem very vigorous either and prone to chlorosis and black spot in my conditions. No sign of any climbing canes yet in year 2, how old is yours?
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
..for those growing 'Ghislaine de Feligonde' as a Standard, and perhaps 'Perennial Blue' as well, as they are both of multiflora origins, here are some photos showing the growth habits, which I hope might indicate how it will develop for you.. Multiflora type ramblers tend to have stiffer upper growth but with gently cascading lower branches, typical in GdeF.. ..top part.. some flowering shoots are quite stiff, even under weight of blooms, others could be trained a bit whilst young.. ..these lower parts would form your cascade..
Ramblers of Wichurana heritage like 'Alberic Barbier' have a more lax habit, where even the top growth will cascade downwards, and form a more mounding, fountain shape..
@Nollie They are delicious looking blooms. It's hard to be precise, but it must be at least 8-9-10 years old. The climbing thing was a complete accident as I bought it as a shrub but it was slightly neglected and slightly swamped by a more vigorous rambler and a clematis for the first few years and left unpruned. It's only in the last 3-4 years it has had the attention it fully deserves, and has started producing these wonderful blooms, but as yet no new canes from the base.
...for those interested in the new 'Elizabeth' rose from David Austin, I wonder if you have noticed any of this.. The foliage is somewhat rugose, tough, and heavily veined.  .the receptacle is elongated like you find in Damask and Bourbon roses..
..this is a Bourbon rose, 'Reine Victoria', closely related to the Damask as they derive from it.. note the small prickles on the stem.. 'Elizabeth' doesn't have these..
..this is the Damask rose R. x damascena 'Quatre Saisons'.. note the elongated receptacle.. and prickles on the stem..
..most roses have more rounded receptacles, that go on to form hips.. 'BMS' has that more typical shape.. I think 'Elizabeth' may therefore be a Bourbon/Rugosa cross mixed with one of their English roses..  it's probably very hardy, and suitable for perhaps zone 4 Canada and colder parts of the U.S. and eastern Europe.. 'Wild Edric' has a similar mix.  Just speculation on my part of course, and I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert in these matters..Â
@ciaranmcgrenera, I would start tying them in as soon as they reach that first ring. That way you can start to train the canes in the direction you want them to grow while they are still thin and pliable. Good luck.
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That’s a stunning bloom @peteS, my GT doesn’t seem very vigorous either and prone to chlorosis and black spot in my conditions. No sign of any climbing canes yet in year 2, how old is yours?
Multiflora type ramblers tend to have stiffer upper growth but with gently cascading lower branches, typical in GdeF..
..top part.. some flowering shoots are quite stiff, even under weight of blooms, others could be trained a bit whilst young..
..these lower parts would form your cascade..
Ramblers of Wichurana heritage like 'Alberic Barbier' have a more lax habit, where even the top growth will cascade downwards, and form a more mounding, fountain shape..
They are delicious looking blooms. It's hard to be precise, but it must be at least 8-9-10 years old. The climbing thing was a complete accident as I bought it as a shrub but it was slightly neglected and slightly swamped by a more vigorous rambler and a clematis for the first few years and left unpruned. It's only in the last 3-4 years it has had the attention it fully deserves, and has started producing these wonderful blooms, but as yet no new canes from the base.
The foliage is somewhat rugose, tough, and heavily veined. Â
.the receptacle is elongated like you find in Damask and Bourbon roses..
..this is a Bourbon rose, 'Reine Victoria', closely related to the Damask as they derive from it.. note the small prickles on the stem.. 'Elizabeth' doesn't have these..
..this is the Damask rose R. x damascena 'Quatre Saisons'.. note the elongated receptacle.. and prickles on the stem..
..most roses have more rounded receptacles, that go on to form hips.. 'BMS' has that more typical shape..Â
I think 'Elizabeth' may therefore be a Bourbon/Rugosa cross mixed with one of their English roses..  it's probably very hardy, and suitable for perhaps zone 4 Canada and colder parts of the U.S. and eastern Europe..
'Wild Edric' has a similar mix.  Just speculation on my part of course, and I'm not claiming to be any kind of expert in these matters..Â