I'm glad Spain won. The only thing England do worse than losing, is winning. I heard a news report last week and they still managed to shoehorn in 1966. It's only a game after all.
They did the winning of the Europeans well, as far as I remember. I detest football, but thought they were lovely in their joy - the small amount that I saw on the news, anyway.
Carmarthenshire (mild, wet, windy). Loam over shale, very slightly sloping, so free draining. Mildly acidic or neutral.
What has made me smile is that the coach of a women's football team quite recently said that coaching a women's team could be more difficult as they tend to be more emotional. He was widely criticised for daring to say such a thing. During the recent tournament there were photographs of players glaring at each other because one had 'stolen' another's partner. Also players bursting into tears when they lost. You will see the latter occasionally in the men's game, but I don't think I've ever seen the former. I'm not saying showing emotion is a bad thing, but to decry somebody for stating the truth is.
Mason Greenwood - how on earth do you judge this? Is it 'right' for Man Utd to effectively sack him? I am really conflicted here - if the man did what was alleged, he should be in prison and nowhere near a football pitch anyway. But he was never tried. Should he be assumed to be guilty? I totally follow women being up in arms about him playing for Utd again (or anyone for that matter if he did do the things alleged), but I'm not sure that it's 'right' to change someone's life on a trial that never happened. What on earth is fitting in this case - it would have been better if he'd been tried IMO - but the police said that with the new evidence and the withdrawal of the witness, that they felt they couldn't get a conviction - but in this case is a conviction what it's all about anyway?
That's the only instance I can remember in over 40 years of watching men's football. During the Women's World Cup somebody compiled a chart of the movement of players between different partners, within their own club and national teams. That is likely to cause friction, to say the least, and isn't an issue I'm aware of within the male game.
Mason Greenwood - how on earth do you judge this? Is it 'right' for Man Utd to effectively sack him? I am really conflicted here - if the man did what was alleged, he should be in prison and nowhere near a football pitch anyway. But he was never tried. Should he be assumed to be guilty? I totally follow women being up in arms about him playing for Utd again (or anyone for that matter if he did do the things alleged), but I'm not sure that it's 'right' to change someone's life on a trial that never happened. What on earth is fitting in this case - it would have been better if he'd been tried IMO - but the police said that with the new evidence and the withdrawal of the witness, that they felt they couldn't get a conviction - but in this case is a conviction what it's all about anyway?
@steveTu I agree it's a difficult one. Various articles about Greenwood suggest he isn't exactly the nicest of characters, but he hasn't been found guilty of anything. There is far too much trial by media, much of it totally unsupported by any subsequent legal action. Is it right that a person, of either sex, should have their life destroyed on that basis?
It is an odd one as no matter how you look at it, without that trial, both sides end up being (more) damaged don't they? If Greenwood is guilty, then the victim doesn't get the closure, and if he's innocent he's still being tried by (social) media (and it gets to something if Saudi Arabian football league won't take him as it may harm their reputation!)
During the Women's World Cup somebody compiled a chart of the movement of players between different partners, within their own club and national teams. That is likely to cause friction, to say the least, and isn't an issue I'm aware of within the male game.
Somebody who like and are you unaware because the same somebody has never done it for the male game?
...within their own club and national teams...
By this I take it we are talking about same sex relationships. That in itself is media fodder, maybe even a little bit of cynical titillation for the predominantly male readership of the sports pages dare I say it, and since there are no gay male footballers 🤣 it's unlikely to be reported. You know Ryan Giggs was 8anging his brother's wife for years don't you? Do you really think he's the only one that has strayed?
The Mason Greenwood episode is a disgrace. Innocent until proven guilty but there will never be resolution and that cloud will follow him forever.
It is an odd one as no matter how you look at it, without that trial, both sides end up being (more) damaged don't they? If Greenwood is guilty, then the victim doesn't get the closure, and if he's innocent he's still being tried by (social) media (and it gets to something if Saudi Arabian football league won't take him as it may harm their reputation!)
I don't know if it's true or not, after all I read it on social media, but it is claimed that Greenwood still lives with the partner who initially made and then withdrew the claims and now has a child with her. That doesn't make it OK if he did assault her. I once worked with a lovely young lady who finally left an abusive relationship (no kids involved), and then moved back in with him a few months later. When one of the other women asked her why she moved back she said she loved him. I cannot understand that mentality. She was earning good money so could have supported herself and had a very supportive family.
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
That's the only instance I can remember in over 40 years of watching men's football. During the Women's World Cup somebody compiled a chart of the movement of players between different partners, within their own club and national teams. That is likely to cause friction, to say the least, and isn't an issue I'm aware of within the male game.
@steveTu I agree it's a difficult one. Various articles about Greenwood suggest he isn't exactly the nicest of characters, but he hasn't been found guilty of anything. There is far too much trial by media, much of it totally unsupported by any subsequent legal action. Is it right that a person, of either sex, should have their life destroyed on that basis?
Somebody who like and are you unaware because the same somebody has never done it for the male game?
...within their own club and national teams...
By this I take it we are talking about same sex relationships. That in itself is media fodder, maybe even a little bit of cynical titillation for the predominantly male readership of the sports pages dare I say it, and since there are no gay male footballers 🤣 it's unlikely to be reported.
You know Ryan Giggs was 8anging his brother's wife for years don't you? Do you really think he's the only one that has strayed?
The Mason Greenwood episode is a disgrace. Innocent until proven guilty but there will never be resolution and that cloud will follow him forever.
...and then there's Gaza... 😭
I don't know if it's true or not, after all I read it on social media, but it is claimed that Greenwood still lives with the partner who initially made and then withdrew the claims and now has a child with her. That doesn't make it OK if he did assault her. I once worked with a lovely young lady who finally left an abusive relationship (no kids involved), and then moved back in with him a few months later. When one of the other women asked her why she moved back she said she loved him. I cannot understand that mentality. She was earning good money so could have supported herself and had a very supportive family.