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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    edited June 2023
    That's not the case is it? Graffiti has always covered a wide range of things - from personal to names to art to political to....

    I'm not sure facebook is anything like graffiti. Graffiti is the hearts for loved ones painted on the embankment walls, padlocks on bridges, the paintings on walls, the CND symbols, rainbow colours, 'Leroy woz 'ere'.... they have occurred in their form since man could draw. Why is it art (as judged now) putting a hand print in a cave n'000 years ago - is that any different to someone's name. In 1000 years when we no longer use pens (if we still exist) and everything is done in some advanced electronic/digital format, archaeologists (if they ever see 'reality') will treasure the names carved as much as archaeologists now relish finding something written/painted/carved from a 1000 years before.

    As I said - I think that graffiti is naff, but I do like graffiti from the past as a link to that 'humanity'.
     
    .....seems like graffiti is a feature...


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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I wonder what weeds would be filling the cracks in my path if I hadn't planted VB.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    punkdoc said:
    What about Banksy?

    Graffiti is vandalism in my book.  I don't care whose name gets attached to it.
  • punkdoc said:
    What about Banksy?
    He's painting on walls that don't belong to him, nor does he ask for permission.

    I don't care what people I, but if he painted his graffiti on the side of my house, I'd paint over it, no matter how much someone might offer to pay for it.

    It's illegal, and hence a crime. He should be treated as such, not rewarded for his endeavours.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Even if you were offered more than the value of your house?
    He can paint on my wall any day. Then I'd sell it.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Isn't there graffiti and graffiti? Graffiti NOW is naff, but graffiti from history can be fascinating. Knights Templar in France (and maybe even Royston cave)...Kilroy/Chad in WWII... soldiers names at battle grounds,... masons marks... any historic marker of migration/travel ( I wonder how many British names can be found across India?)...what about hearts carved in trees?....poetry and social comment from Pompeii. All were naff when they were being done, but are they now?
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  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Just heard that the wonderful Alan Arkin has died.
    If you've never seen The Heart is a Lonely Hunter, you need to do so as soon as possible. Magnificent in every way. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • B3 said:
    Even if you were offered more than the value of your house?
    He can paint on my wall any day. Then I'd sell it.
    Yes, even if it was more than the value of my house. 
    It's the principal, and Banksy needs to learn that he can't just deface any wall, and expect to be recompensed for his graffiti.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited June 2023
    Banksy doesn’t receive any money from his public art/graffiti or whatever you like to call it. It’s a political statement. 

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  • philippasmith2philippasmith2 Posts: 3,742
    As I understand it the word Graffito refers to a mural scribbling or drawing seen in ancient cities such as Rome and Pompeii.  Supposedly attributed to "schoolboys and idlers ".  Also used to refer to scribblings/drawings -  often indecent - found on public buildings. 
    Graffiti seems only to refer to writing. 
    Never hear anyone using the term Graffito so the word has seemingly morphed to encompass anything drawn or written on a building.  
    There is a difference tho to my mind -  forget the " Wanker Was Here" type of vandalism scrawled on walls/pavements but  have a look around somewhere like Bristol - there is some stunning art work on buildings, the owners of which are more than happy with.
    Obviously not appropriate everywhere but the modern equivalent of Cave painting and if it suits the situation and the building owner is happy with it, I don't see a problem.


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