It’s about the freight that sort of questioning, done in that way, carries with it for people who have experienced racism all their lives.
Also I find it hard to credit that you really don’t understand the importance of family and knowing who you are, to someone’s sense of identity and the establishment of self-worth.
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The transcript shows it was a badgering style of integration...... Not sure how many times we have to state that IT'S HOW YOU SAY IT!!! Obviously, that's my opinion... Just some opinions are built from actual experience!
How can you tell intent? How can the initial question be badgering? Given then that there could have been misunderstanding on both sides (ie the woman thought she was being asked which organisation she represented initially - or at least that's what I took from her radio interview yesterday) - so the LiW asks again. The LiW cannot know why the person is answering as they are. If the person knew what the question was 'asking' - and thought it was racist and didn't want to reply because of that, fine. But the LiW cannot 'know' the reasons behind her reply can she? So the LiW repeats the question because she presumably thinks the woman has misunderstood the meaning of her question...Four Candles comes to mind. Is it badgering or simply the questioner thinking the questioned doesn't understand the question?
Have I missed something then where what was said - and how it was said - was recorded? How was it said? How have I said this and all the other posts?
My wife has been asked a number of times over the years which part of China she comes from. Most of these questions have been asked by Chinese people. Should she have been horrified and traumatised as she is English born and bred and to the best of her knowledge has no Chinese ancestry? Were the questioners racist or just interested in her background?
I'm not disputing that racism is out there, but there are many examples too of people claiming that any criticism of them is borne of racism. I know that's moving away from the core question here but is part of the same 'story'.
Do these not give you a clue as to why people in positions of power and influence in the UK should be aware of potential sensitivies and not badger, hector and insist and behave in a proprietorial way (invading space, personal touching) when talking to folk?
Further to my previous post ... Context is everything. If the person doing the questioning had been someone's elderly and slightly batty aunt sitting on a sofa with a cuppa and a biscuit, I'm sure Ms Fulani would've felt quite differently about the style and content of the questioning.
She was being interrogated by someone representing the Royal Family.
The difference in context is massive.
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Tui34, am very impressed with you and the balance ball! (Course,you might be younger than the average "27" year old on the forum! I tried to post a picture on here of my 11 year old grandson, running on top of one, when we took them away in August, but unfortunately it wouldn't load.
Further to my previous post ... Context is everything. If the person doing the questioning had been someone's elderly and slightly batty aunt sitting on a sofa with a cuppa and a biscuit, I'm sure Ms Fulani would've felt quite differently about the style and content of the questioning.
She was being interrogated by someone representing the Royal Family.
The difference in context is massive.
Interrogated? To what end? It's this conflation that gets me. Suddenly the Royal Family is racist and everything they do has a race element. The LiW is now some Torquemada with some hateful racist intent. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the spot light she was shining in the woman's face or the thumb screws.
Going back to class Dove - Ms Fulani seemed to also object to the use of 'your people'. It must be me again - and I have limited knowledge of anything but lower class (and my shoe box), but isn't 'your people' also synonymous with 'your family' in upper class circles IE:
'what business are your people in?'
I think the LiW was totally clumsy, tactless, inarticulate ... but racist?
I think it’s a case of ‘it ain’t what you do, it’s the way that you do it’.
Younger generations perceive things differently.
The phrase ‘your people’ sounds discriminatory to someone from a non-white British background … it sounds too much like the pejorative ‘you people’ which has been used since the 1950s to tell people to go back where they came from.
However to someone with an English Public School background ‘your people’ is just another way of saying ‘your family’, as in ‘are your people visiting to take you out this weekend?’
@steveTu said ...Going back to class Dove - Ms Fulani seemed to also object to the use of 'your people'. It must be me again - and I have limited knowledge of anything but lower class (and my shoe box), but isn't 'your people' also synonymous with 'your family' in upper class circles IE:
'what business are your people in?'
... You seem to have read my earlier post (quoted above) 😲
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I really do not think this was the case at the Buckingham Palace reception but at royal garden parties an advance troop of gentleman ushers is sent out to gather information on selected guests. This happened to a friend of mine so that the moment my friend was introduced to the member of the Royal Family she had already been briefed and the discussion moved immediately on to the nature of Rutland, the work of a rural Dean etc.
Possibly, but very unlikely, this was what was happening in this week’s incident.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43782241
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/14/scale-misery-devastating-inside-story-reporting-windrush-scandal
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/10/windrush-deporting-people
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She was being interrogated by someone representing the Royal Family.
The difference in context is massive.
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When you don't even know who's in the team
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... You seem to have read my earlier post (quoted above) 😲
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Possibly, but very unlikely, this was what was happening in this week’s incident.