I grew up thinking that the older the fruit and veg the more vitamins they lose. I'd like to know if that notion is correct. I'm not a nutritionist but know that food should be varied to include fruit and veg. Does anyone have any scientific knowledge of this please? I agree with you @steveTu
But how can you tell B3? In the past presumably somebody went round and looked at best before dates and rotated the stock, now without any dates, all stock appears to be intermingled (how can it not be?). If I shopped on a daily basis, it wouldn't bother me - I'd just pick the stuff that looked/smelt (smelled?) fresh and use it the same day. But I shop for a week and buy food for meals for a week. So I typically want stuff with relatively long life. As I said before on this date subject, it doesn't save waste (as it states on the labels) - it just potentially moves the cost of out of date stock from the SM to the consumer. How much now is thrown away at home rather than the SM?
Please convince me I'm being paranoid but the recent outages with American flights and post office computers smacks of someone trying out their cyber attack systems. Most of our technology has elements of cheap Chinese software / hardware/ whatever.
You have good reason to be paranoid. I have just been reading "Sandworm", by Andy Greenberg, about a Russian cyber warfare group, named from one of the various references to Frank Herbert's novel "Dune" contained in its malware.
It has been involved in the 2016 USA and 2017 French presidential elections, the 2018 cyber attack on the Olympic opening ceremony, and attacks on Ukraine. In 2017 one of these attacks on Ukraine caused $300 million damage by hitting almost all the computers of Maersk, the World's biggest shipping company. They were only able to recover because one vital piece of software needed to do so escaped destruction on one computer in Ghana because of a power cut. Without that fortuitous power cut the company would probably have been destroyed.
I think, as gardeners, we can make a reasonable estimate of how much life is left in a vegetable so long as you can feel ,smell and see it. The non- gardeners, perhaps not. @Alan Clark2 in Liverpool you are not helping😉
It's the loose stuff that's rotting in Sainsbury. You have to buy a reusable bag to get them. Nobody does so they rot. I noticed that Lidl have rolls of the type bags you put in compost caddies for buying loose vegetables. Those bags aren't cheap to buy for use at home. I suspect some customers might help themselves to a fistful
Please convince me I'm being paranoid but the recent outages with American flights and post office computers smacks of someone trying out their cyber attack systems. Most of our technology has elements of cheap Chinese software / hardware/ whatever.
Gloucester City Council was hacked and held to ransom. They had no insurance against such an attack and have taken around a year to sort things out. I don't know if they have completely recovered yet.
I'm sure @pansyface is right about codes on fresh produce so staff can rotate stock. However, I think it'll take a while before customers, used only to looking for the longest "best before" date, get the hang of actually assessing the freshness of the fruit & veg in front of them... members of this forum excepted, of course!
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
I think that reinforces my view. The problem - and again this is basxed on limited knowledge of SM working practices - but if I had ever defined a system that reduced used functionality or made existing processes harder to do, I'd have been laughed at. A human readable date, that can be used by staff and consumer, replaced by a code that can only be read by staff and require additional hardware (and presumably cost)? What then is the purpose of removing dates? What do the staff do with the items that they scan and detect are close to or beyond their dates? Leave them? Remove them - and if they do this, why replace the dates?
I'll check my labels on the items I bought this week and see if there's a scanable code I can read.
Most of the fruit and veg in the SMs I use is loose. You can choose to weigh it without a bag, in a paper bag provided free or in a re-usable cloth veg bag you have too pay for and just remember to take with you. We do all three.
The only wrapped veg I buy are onions and garlic in string bags and punnets of chestnut mushrooms which have a packing date on them, packs of 3 little gem lettucesand cardboard punnets of cherry plum tomatoes when I have none fresh at home. Occasionally I buy avocadoes in cardboard cartons as I have found them more reliable than the loose ones.
Other than the leccy and water metres recently installed there is nothing smart about our home except us - all capable of opening doors, turning on the heating and switching on lights, ovens, kettles, toasters, TVs etc. Can't bear the thought of the inconvenience and costs of waiting for failed "smart" things to be repaired or replaced or the systems being hacked.
According to one campaign group I occasionally read about here, the Russians meddled in the Brexit vote too. They're hoping - in vain I suspect - that their evidence will prove strong enough to reverse the vote results. Nowt so queer and all that.
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I agree with you @steveTu
@Alan Clark2 in Liverpool you are not helping😉
Gloucester City Council was hacked and held to ransom. They had no insurance against such an attack and have taken around a year to sort things out. I don't know if they have completely recovered yet.
The only wrapped veg I buy are onions and garlic in string bags and punnets of chestnut mushrooms which have a packing date on them, packs of 3 little gem lettucesand cardboard punnets of cherry plum tomatoes when I have none fresh at home. Occasionally I buy avocadoes in cardboard cartons as I have found them more reliable than the loose ones.
Other than the leccy and water metres recently installed there is nothing smart about our home except us - all capable of opening doors, turning on the heating and switching on lights, ovens, kettles, toasters, TVs etc. Can't bear the thought of the inconvenience and costs of waiting for failed "smart" things to be repaired or replaced or the systems being hacked.
According to one campaign group I occasionally read about here, the Russians meddled in the Brexit vote too. They're hoping - in vain I suspect - that their evidence will prove strong enough to reverse the vote results. Nowt so queer and all that.