Forum home The potting shed
This Forum will close on Wednesday 27 March, 2024. Please refer to the announcement on the Discussions page for further detail.

🐧🐧CURMUDGEONS' CORNER XXI🐧🐧

1432433435437438958

Posts

  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    She wasn't asked about her outfit.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    B3 said:
    I agree that the woman was ill-mannered to pursue her line of questioning but if I went to the Whitehouse wearing a kilt, a traditional Welsh hat or dressed as a pearly queen, I would expect my heritage to pop up in conversation at some stage.  What the woman wore was, at least, a hint at her African heritage.
    I think the real shame is the wasted opportunity to discuss the abuse of women and children.

    Scottish people don't grow up being told to go back where they came from though.

    Are you sure about that.  I do have Scottish heritage and was actually spat at in Caernarvon some years ago and told, I quote "To f*** off back to where you came from"
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    punkdoc said:
    @steveTu, there are degrees of racism: if she had told her to go home, that would have been a hate crime, as it was just an everyday case of racism.

    OK - if it is an 'ist'/'ism' statement - what is your definition? Let's assume that there is a legal thing where someone could be punished for being 'ist'. You would be happy for that LiW to suffer punishment for her question?
    If I ask someone what age they are is that 'ageist'?
    What about if I ask what sex they are is that sexist?
    If I ask someone how tall they are, is that tallist?
    If I ask someone how much they weigh is that weightist?
    Do you wear glasses? Is that spectacleist?


    They may all be impolite and socially inept, but 'ist'?


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    ....just heard that the Queen started with 'What do you do?' as the ice breaker.
    Isn't that job'ist? Doesn't that embarrass the poor sod who feels bad about his/her low paid job? Fine if you're an architect, banker (or is it?), lawyer...
    That rings a bell with me - just came back to mind. I was going to go into the 6th form at school to do 'A' levels. We had to sit an interview with a board of or teachers to get offered a place. I thought I was doing swimmingly, then one of the teachers, I can't recall who, asked which newspaper I read. I came from a council estate and my dad was a lorry driver and my mum a dinner lady (served dinners at the school) and we used to get The Mirror. Being gauche, and embarrassed to admit that, I said 'The Mail' (thinking that was a bit more upper class and yet still believable!) - so one of the other teachers then asked me which pages the TV and sport were on. Git. They did offer me  a place, but I'd managed to get a job by then, so never took them up on it. Those little things that change your life eh?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Most of your ist statements suggest that it is you who need the glasses😀
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited December 2022
    I have no words for someone who seems to think that being racist is the equivalent to being ‘tallist’ and ‘weightist’.  🤯


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    From the point of view of the person being victimised, isn't any 'ism' as bad as any other?

    Then give me a definition of what type of question is 'ist'? What questions can you ask without being ist?

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • steveTu said:
    From the point of view of the person being victimised, isn't any 'ism' as bad as any other? ...



    Of course not ... have you no knowledge or understanding of European colonialism and the slave trade in the Caribbean and the Americas? 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.







  • Hmmm 🤔




    You've lost me??
  • punkdoc said:
    @steveTu, there are degrees of racism: if she had told her to go home, that would have been a hate crime, as it was just an everyday case of racism.
    TBH I don't even think it was racism..more cloistered long term disdainful ignorance from somebody who has been cosseted from real life & surrounded by people with identical views.
Sign In or Register to comment.