Regarding euthanasia. Why is it illegal to assist a terminally ill person who is in severe pain to die, but also illegal to keep an animal in severe pain alive?
Palliative care in the UK is better now than it has ever been and it can be said that it's the best in Europe so perhaps euthanasia isn't needed as such.
@Jenny_Aster I know that its not a easy discussion but we can't ignore the elephant in the room because it's a difficult thing to talk about. I'm not suggesting that there should be a limit to family size but if over population is seen as a contribution to climate change perhaps by discussing it it would become more socially unacceptable to have a large family. I know that governments don't want their populations to decrease for economic reasons but short term thinking is a major part of the problem as I see it. Personally I know a few older people, myself included, who say they would rather be dead than go into a nursing home. Perhaps that's where the discussion should start.
Completely agree, though apologies, I think my sarcasm was a bit too subtle
There shouldn't be anything off the agenda to debate. Everyone should be able to state their thoughts and truths without ridicule. There are far too many virtue signallers these days, and heaven help anyone who has a different opinion from the 'perceived' norm.
Have people lost the art of debate? How many times a day do we bite our tongue, or write something in a box on this forum only to delete it, you know.... just in case
Times are changing, I think the far-left have flipped to being the far-right, but of course it's only my lowly opinion
Just read back a few pages. Interesting discussions guys! Re God - I'm a pantheist I think. For 'God' I read 'Nature'. I've tried with organised religion, trying to find a 'home' and the older I've got the more cynical I have become. I attend church for Remembrance Day, funerals etc. but then scoff when the adverts come along. I used to be able to mumble the Lord's Prayer just to conform with the rest of the congregation but the words stuck increasingly in my throat and now I just can't say it. But I understand that others take comfort from their religious beliefs. We are conscious enough to know that science alone cannot explain the miracles of life - or maybe it can if we were scientific enough to understand all the science, or science would advance enough to be able to explain why a forest behaves the way it does, rather than how. I just accept that that is the way Nature is as I just don't have the brain power to get the why of it.
I think the world will self-regulate the population it can sustain. (Fire, drought, flood...). I don't think we are full yet, but we do need to better organised in the distribution of resources. Cutting down rainforest to grow animal feed is crazy.
@didyw well said. I like to refer myself as being spiritual, and I feel spiritual the most when I'm surrounded by nature. Though saying that, I get the same feeling in a cathedral or an old ancient church.
Religion is all man made, not that I'm denying the existence of once great men such as Buddah, Jesus.... It seems there's a human at the source of every religion, who's teachings have been bast**dised for the sake of controlling the masses.
I try not to wear my religion or 'spiritualness' on my sleeve, preferring to keep it's sacredness somewhere deep inside.
We are conscious enough to know that science alone cannot explain the miracles of life - or maybe it can if we were scientific enough to understand all the science, or science would advance enough to be able to explain why a forest behaves the way it does, rather than how. I just accept that that is the way Nature is as I just don't have the brain power to get the why of it.
Why and How are the same question. Why does a volcano erupt? Plate tectonics. How does it erupt? Plate tectonics.
I have to disagree - why did you kill him definitely isn't the same question as how did you kill him? Of course in my original Scots dialect why and how are often interchangeable - how no/why not.
I have to disagree - why did you kill him definitely isn't the same question as how did you kill him? Of course in my original Scots dialect why and how are often interchangeable - how no/why not.
That is different. People do things for a purpose, but natural processes have no purpose. Humans look for purpose in people's behaviour because we are social animals, but we then take things too far by looking for purpose where there is none.
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It’s the doctors job to save a life whatever the cost not destroy one until death comes naturally.
There shouldn't be anything off the agenda to debate. Everyone should be able to state their thoughts and truths without ridicule. There are far too many virtue signallers these days, and heaven help anyone who has a different opinion from the 'perceived' norm.
Have people lost the art of debate? How many times a day do we bite our tongue, or write something in a box on this forum only to delete it, you know.... just in case
Times are changing, I think the far-left have flipped to being the far-right, but of course it's only my lowly opinion
Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border.
I think the world will self-regulate the population it can sustain. (Fire, drought, flood...). I don't think we are full yet, but we do need to better organised in the distribution of resources. Cutting down rainforest to grow animal feed is crazy.
Religion is all man made, not that I'm denying the existence of once great men such as Buddah, Jesus.... It seems there's a human at the source of every religion, who's teachings have been bast**dised for the sake of controlling the masses.
I try not to wear my religion or 'spiritualness' on my sleeve, preferring to keep it's sacredness somewhere deep inside.
Cambridgeshire/Norfolk border.