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  • hatty123hatty123 Posts: 125
    @Obelixx good idea I can probably plug some gaps in the cold frame, at least then it won't end up in landfill 😔
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Correct @Hostafan1, but which eejit.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I bought a roll of bubble wrap to line my greenhouse some years ago, I think it lasted about 3 years then disintegrated.  Just turned to dust,  what can you do with it then,  would that be what they call micro plastics?  
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    edited November 2021
    How can the Tories (sorry, - that should be 'this particular bunch of Tories') get away with this? The current procedure for investigating misdemeanours by politicians were set up 'cross party' - as all parliamentary committees are apparently.. They took time to set up those processes - they were voted on. They were looked at in 2003 and 2008 (I think that is what they said on the radio yesterday) and Parliament thought they were sufficient.
    There was a discussion here a while about about the insulation bunch and their breaking the law to highlight a point. Can it then be ignored when a government circumvents the procedures that itself sets up? Isn't it more worrying when a Gov is willing to openly circumvent/flaunt the rules - and worse, to change the rules to suit a circumstance - as where does that then end?

    If the gov had put forward a proposal to change the internal procedures process last year... two years ago... or even in 6 months time - then fine. If the process is flawed (and if it is I'm not sure how it was reviewed and found to be ok before) then revamping it to make it better is fine. But you can't change the rules to suit a specific case.

    Edited to add: From 2002 - how the process should be reviewed - not via an amendment to a vote as happened yesterday. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/336882/8thInquiry_Fullreport.pdf

    Edited: Current state - you'll see that these standards were approved by Parliament. https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmcode/1882/1882.pdf

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  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Hattie 123,shampoo, conditioner,body wash,bars, in cardboard boxes, available in supermarkets. No plastics,no palm oil in mine
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    How much longer will Naga Munchety be allowed to get away with being rude to the people she works with?  Today it was sniping at Charlie which at least meant she was leaving Carol alone.  If the positions were reversed, and she was on the receiving end, I can imagine the outcry.  When this happens one way it seems it's just 'banter', but when done the other way.....
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    She is a bit of a sourpuss isn't she?

    French TV license is per private household no matter how many TVs there are but, as far as I can tell, people of 70+ and others on very low incomes are exempt.  It is paid annually as an itemised separately on "taxe habitation" except that that is being phased out and already 80% no longer pay it and no household will be paying it from 2023 so who knows how they'll collect it.   2nd homes and gîtes need their own license.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    UK TV licencing is per household too.
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    edited November 2021
    steveTu said:
    How can the Tories (sorry, - that should be 'this particular bunch of Tories') get away with this? 

    They (he) has no regard for either the law or the truth and his experience to date is that the general public don't care, so why wouldn't he assume he can get away with it?

    He flew from COP 26 by private jet to a dinner with Charles Moore (close personal friend of Owen Patterson), and then changed the law (or is trying to) to protect his mate. It's not hard to guess what has happened, what's been said, and even if that is completely wrong and it's entirely innocent, they must appreciate that that is how it looks.

    It speaks volumes that Geoffrey Cox and Dominic Raab - neither of whom I admire, by the way, and both of whom have been on the side of some pretty dodgy moves by this Government - both abstained on this vote
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Agree with above, but it does no favour to Labour, that a number of their MP's abstained, so they could actually have defeated the proposal.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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