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  • I don't suppose it actually matters whether the ammunition was "live" or "blank" - according to the report, blanks can cause serious or even fatal injury.  Surely enough technology is available these days to give the impression to cinema goers that a shot has been fired without actually doing so on set ?
    If it is beyond the film makers capability, perhaps just revert to a speech balloon saying "BANG" and the victim collapsing covered with the appropriate amount of ketchup.  I'm sure we would all get the gist ;)
    We rattle on about Health and Safety regulations in the UK - how do film makers here deal with the "Bang, you are dead " issue ?
     

  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    My OH does film visual effects and he says he doesn't understand why they ever use real guns at all as they always redo the shots in CGI afterwards anyway as reality doesn't look impressive enough. Doing gunshots is a staple for his lot - it's entirely unnecessary to shoot it live (unfortunate phrase).
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    It's called 'muzzle flash enhancement' apparently, and they've done tens of thousands of them. The point being, they do them whether or not the scene has been shot IRL or not.
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    A completely avoidable accident then, utter stupidity to have real loaded guns around on set (whether live bullets or blanks) when replicas, good acting and CGI would do the job without the risk. I hope it ends up getting banned but it probably won't, being the US.
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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I don't think it is clear yet whether the gun had live ammunition, or blanks.
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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    What I don't understand is why he pointed it at the camerawoman, or cinematographer as they are now called.  To take her out and also injure the assistant director with one bullet must have been some shot.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    So many horrific gun accidents happen in America - toddlers shooting their siblings, parents or the like.
    There is a knife culture in some echelons of society here but nobody ,adult or child, could  be knifed accidentally - only with criminal intent. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    What I don't understand is why he pointed it at the camerawoman, or cinematographer as they are now called.  To take her out and also injure the assistant director with one bullet must have been some shot.
    I heard the director was standing behind the cinematographer and the bullet passed right through her. 
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited October 2021
    It seems that something was very lax ... that sort of film shot should have been done by the camera operator remotely and/or using a bullet proof screen.  

    It looks to me as if production costs had been trimmed, and consequently  inexperienced (and therefore cheaper) folk were being used for stuff that was beyond their capabilities.  

    And of course if there weren't so many firearms and so much ammunition so easily available in the US it wouldn't be so easy for slip ups to lead to tragedy. 

    Very sad. 

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  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I did quite a bit of shooting with the cadets, both live round and blanks. Gun safety was drilled into us at all times and if you weren't treating blank rounds as if they were live then you were going to get in a lot of trouble. We were told again and again that blank rounds can kill or seriously hurt people so I just can't understand how actors are even allowed to use them as props like this.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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