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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    ...totally... I'm all for people being able to move up the ladder and improve themselves (wrong phrase - maybe 'improve their earning capabilities' is better), but there are always those less fortunate aren't there? And that is the measure of society isn't it - how it provides for those who can't provide for themselves.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    steveTu said:
    ...totally... I'm all for people being able to move up the ladder and improve themselves (wrong phrase - maybe 'improve their earning capabilities' is better), but there are always those less fortunate aren't there? And that is the measure of society isn't it - how it provides for those who can't provide for themselves.
    however the average Tory doesn't give a toss about them. Bojo the Clown and his Public School buddies certainly don't.
    Devon.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I'm not sure that I did in my youth Hosta... maybe I was a callow youth, but I really took little notice of the world. My world was ok, so I assumed everyone else's was - even though I came from a totally working class background where we had no money. That's appalling isn't it?
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    What is it with power that corrupts? Maggie and Blair both ended up believing their own spin on themselves. And didn't Arthur Scargill end up refusing to leave his union flat at the Barbican and then try to buy it under Maggie's 'right to buy' laws? Is it only human nature to NOT think of others once you climb to the dizzy heights? That doesn't excuse me though does it? I never got off the first rung!
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    "If they automate they will have to pay people to do nothing" has been the cry ever since the days of Jethro Tull (not the musician) and probably before that.  The work required by people changes, it doesn't disappear.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Personally, in my mad mental world, I think you're potentially wrong. In the past (until the 60s), work was made by man for man. That has been changing since the 60s. If you look at all the jobs that have been lost to computerisation - you could argue that they were compensated by creating a 24x7 society as well all the jobs around that computerisation itself. But, we've only just started down that route and already work is made for computer by man. It is only possible to do it with a computer. That in itself is fine - but (and here I go again) AI will then create AI jobs for AI. Unless you restructure what society means, I think you'll have to get used to dwindling jobs. Will that be good or bad? Who knows?

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    weren't we all told about 50 years ago that " computers and robots will do all the work and we'll all have endless leisure time"?
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited October 2021
    That was lockdown wasn't it? Well, the endless leisure time anyway😏

    I really hate it when people anthropomorphise cars, even to the extent of giving them a name but our new car is a complete control freak! 
    A common refrain when we're out is: "What the hell is bothering it now?"
     The trouble is, it's usually right.

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    B3 said:
    That was lockdown wasn't it? Well, the endless leisure time anyway😏



    I worked more hours during lockdown to cover sickness of others, as did many others in supermarkets.
     o:) 
    Devon.
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