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  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    I don’t for one second think there are microchips in cards but don’t people see that making an iID card compulsory before voting takes away our right to choose. I don’t drive or have a passport so will have to apply for a card with all the information on. How soon before that information is hacked? Am I expected to carry it at all times in case I have an accident? If it’s in my handbag which is lost or stolen along with my keys I will have to change my locks. Are people really so stupid that they don’t realise how quickly these cards will be counterfeited? 
  • Not even identical twins can access each other's details on a  biometric card. 

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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Why is card (or the server where the data is kept - if it is stored anyway) likely to be hacked? Couldn't your details here be hacked or at any of your utility suppliers or at anywhere where you've provided your details just as easily?  Couldn't your laptop or whatever you use to access this site be hacked? Couldn't the server that currently contains the electoral role (where you get your current voting card from) be hacked and your details removed? Couldn't...

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I can understand your concerns @debs64 but so many near neighbours of the UK have ID cards with loads of personal info on them and no problems with hacking and yes, you carry it all the time.  It's no use to you tucked in a drawer if you do end up in hospital and unable to tell the doctors about existing conditions/allergies/previous illnesses.  If you lose your card you go to the local council offices and get a new one.   No more complicated than getting keys cut.

    What's more, all the machinery and software to manage them already exists so no need to spend a fortune and re-invent the wheel and get it wrong as happens with so many govt IT projects.


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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I think the question that should have been asked here, is what ID do you need to provide to get your photo ID card, if that is the way you go?
    For a passport you had to have a photo validated by a 'professional' who knew you, such as a Dr etc. Presumably that is still the case and will be applied to voting IDs. But how many docs know their patients by sight any more - and who else would be accepted as an authenticator?
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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I've always found having to have my ID verified by a middle class person offensive. They're  just as likely  to be crooks  as anyone  else 
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited September 2021
    It’s not being middle class that qualifies them to witness a passport application, it's being professionally qualified … be it a lawyer, doctor, teacher, social worker  etc … someone who has to be a member of a professional body bound by particular standards of behaviour. They can lose their career if they don’t uphold them. 

    Nowadays there are plenty of professionally qualified folk who don’t come from what are traditionally thought of as ‘the middle classes’.  

    Whether you think that being professionally qualified then makes them middle class is up to you 😉 

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Double glazing salesmen,  estate agents, builders all belong to professional bodies. I'd  rather trust an honest pheasant plucker
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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    In the formal sense the professions which can authenticate identity are the ones requiring study and qualifications - doctors, lawyers - and take oaths to uphold professional standards and can be sanctioned and disbarred for breaches.

    Any Tom, Dick or Harry in the UK can set up as a builder, plumber, estate agent with no set standards or sanctions.

    Spot the difference @B3?   
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Anyone can take an oath 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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