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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    I enjoy those calls. We have phones where you can transfer calls internally and they play 'muzak' while connecting. So when a dubious call comes through from Microsoft or whereever, and they ask if I'm Mr blah, I say I'll just transfer them and press the transfer button. Or if I'm in a particularly malevolent mood I say I'll just transfer them and stick the phone in front of my computer speakers and listen in til they ring off.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Once again why change the status quo? Why do I now need ID to vote? 
  • To make it harder for others to steal your vote from you. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • madpenguinmadpenguin Posts: 2,543
    debs64 said:
    Once again why change the status quo? Why do I now need ID to vote? 
    Surely things change all the time?
    I expect many men were quite happy with the status quo when women could not vote but it changed all the same!
    “Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.” - Bernard Cornwell-Death of Kings
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    This is madness, having photo ID for voting and many other things, would just make our live easier and much safer, if important health data were included.
    You have no idea how often I have been faced with a victim of an RTA, unconscious, with me not having any information on them.
    An ID card with health data, would save lives, as well as making voter more fraud proof.
    Of course it could also act as Passport, Driving license etc.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • I like the idea of an ID card it would make us more European.
  • Why now? Better technology makes for more secure ID cards is one reason.  In the past you could just counterfeit any card. Now there's chips with biometrics.

    If that's not a good reason, well I reckon the state of politics here and around the world with the  increase in social media there's more awareness of methods if fraud by ne'er do wells. National ID would help with proof of ID for so many reasons.  If you're setting one up for the other reasons such at contact with officialdom then why not for proof of ID for voting. IMHO it's madness that there's no checks on voter's ID as it is.

    I can only get to my polling station late in the day.  I start work before they open.  Then I've got to get n home,  have dinner,  family time the out to vote. Anyone who knows my name and address could easily vote before I get there.  It hasn't happened but theoretically it could.  An ID  check is a simple security check. 

    BTW is there a system where someone turns up to vote but the officials have already given their vote to someone else? I guess there isn't because it's possible prove you are who you claim to be but not that you've haven't been in earlier to vote.

    I wonder what it is about proving your identity before voting is a problem? To do that you need ID of a credible form. Do you know of any other official areas of your life that your word is sufficient to prove your ID? Do you know any other area as important as voting that accept your word for ID?
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Does anyone on here know anyone who knows anyone who has had their vote stolen? 
    How useful to have an ID card that can be scanned to discover your address, don’t forget to carry it with you always so when your bag with your keys in gets stolen you have all the fun of changing your locks. And of course it makes it so much easier for criminals to steal your identity as all the information they need is in one place and nobody ever misplaces those things or has them stolen. 
    Of course we will all carry our cards at all times because nobody ever forgets stuff or leaves it in their coat pocket or other handbag. 
    Obviously you will know exactly what’s on the card so there’s no chance of government or big business using the information to track you. Already after the pandemic my bank can pretty well tell you every penny I spend and where I spent it thanks to “ cash carries germs” 
    The freedom i speak of is freedom of choice, I don’t want an ID card to vote. 
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I've  been trying  to make sense  of the arguments against ID.  Unfortunately, it's  beyond me.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Everyone will have a different opinion on ID cards no doubt the government will take the opinion of those who shout the loudest as that seems to be the way these decisions are made these days, again the silent majority will lose out.
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