@Mr. Vine Eye@Marlorena I had posted here a similar offshoot of my Lady EH. She is not planted too deep and yet managed to produce an offshoot. So your Desdemona could well be a similar story and a bonus new plant. May be Austins inherit that habit from their old rose ancestors?
I have seen some vids praising "Country Parson"..
@Marlorena compared to Silas Mariner, what do you think is better in terms of flowering and scent??
I didn't check too much either. At first I thought it could be a sucker, as the root stock is exposed. But the root stock varieties do not have that maroon-ish colour of LEH, and so I covered the feeder/ root and left her alone. I am planning to cut and separate the young growth at some point by end of Feb. That pic was taken in December, so I assume she had enough time to put some more roots. Good luck to both of us
@cooldoc .. just to answer your question about flowering and scent of those two roses, neither of which I am recommending to anyone who might ask me about them as my jury is still out on both.. I prefer The CP for scent, it's lemony and available most of the time.. the blooms do fade to creamy white rather quickly, but its ultra thorny habit prevents me from singing its praises.. it cannot be handled without gloves.. Silas has beautiful Spring foliage, all mahogany, gold and green.. quite outstanding.. in my East Anglian sun the outer guard petals can discolour a bit.. I like the button eye it has and the quite feminine appearance of the bloom..
I think given time, I will probably prefer Silas more.. they're both still here, which is surprising, and not due the chop at this point..
Roses can sucker from their own roots or layer themselves from a shoot that either touches the soil from above and grows roots from that, or gets submerged enough to form roots.. the shoot then sends up a stem some distance from the bush.. I'm not sure what yours is.. I suspect there's a very thin shoot under there which can be traced back to the crown..
The most notorious rose for doing both suckering and layering is the Gallica 'Charles de Mills', along with Rugosas.. this way they form thickets..
What I need though are some more winter interest plants. Like evergreen shrubs.
Not just for appearance but to provide minibeast cover over winter that doesn't get cut back.
The area near Kew Gardens and Bathsheba is fine as it's full of herbs and structural stems, seedheads from echinacea, rudbeckia etc.
But the corner near Ghislaine and also the shed bed looks quite bare.
Needs to be something that can be kept quite compact though, height not as much of an issue, but needs to be fairly narrow.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Actually while I'm on this line of thinking.
I've got this corner near the shed, next to Lady of Shalott. As you can see it's become a dumping ground (although this is actually after I've tidied it a little.) But I could plant something here.
A tricky corner, in that it will be shaded for most of the year but in summer it gets the strong western sun from noon onwards.
I've got chives at the front of Lady of Shalott.
Maybe I could plant a not too vigorous geranium. Something a bit taller might be good though.
I'll probably end up just sticking in one of the 'spare' plants I've got in the collection of pots near the back door.
I have considered maybe putting a blue or purple clematis to grow with the rose - not going to add much for this time of year though!
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But I’ll let you know if something suddenly pops up! 😀
.. just to answer your question about flowering and scent of those two roses, neither of which I am recommending to anyone who might ask me about them as my jury is still out on both..
I prefer The CP for scent, it's lemony and available most of the time.. the blooms do fade to creamy white rather quickly, but its ultra thorny habit prevents me from singing its praises.. it cannot be handled without gloves..
Silas has beautiful Spring foliage, all mahogany, gold and green.. quite outstanding.. in my East Anglian sun the outer guard petals can discolour a bit.. I like the button eye it has and the quite feminine appearance of the bloom..
I think given time, I will probably prefer Silas more.. they're both still here, which is surprising, and not due the chop at this point..
Roses can sucker from their own roots or layer themselves from a shoot that either touches the soil from above and grows roots from that, or gets submerged enough to form roots.. the shoot then sends up a stem some distance from the bush.. I'm not sure what yours is.. I suspect there's a very thin shoot under there which can be traced back to the crown..
The most notorious rose for doing both suckering and layering is the Gallica 'Charles de Mills', along with Rugosas.. this way they form thickets..
Hopefully that works. Garden's not at it's best this time of year, but thought you might like to see all the pruned roses.
Wind noise throughout so I muted it and popped some music over the top.
Have to keep myself busy!
'How bright your garden looks!' said Gandalf."
Thanks @Mr. Vine Eye