That happened to my new patio roses @Fire I don't want to pull them up😢 , so that is why I want to use a deterrent but a more organic option. So how do you make it? There appears to be many ways, soak, boil, crush the garlic, in water or oil. Does anyone have a preference?
I do hear a lot of rosarians say that the 'public' are too worried about roses and "they are not hard plants to grow". But there are quite number of restrictions and blights - black spot, aphids, scale, RRD, saw fly. These don't necessarily kill a plant but they do make the situation harder. You have to consider light levels, watering, feeding and some pruning, esp tricky if growing in containers. I think maybe roses are not hard if you are really prepared to give them ongoing attention.
I have developed a habit of giving friends roses as presents. I met a neighbour the other day who very sheepishly admitted she had killed a rose I gave her. "I don't have green fingers" she said. She felt bad. I felt bad that she felt bad. I suppose I assume people will look up how to look after plants, if they have no idea and are interested.
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Some infinitesimally small fraction of seeds that are bought in retail go on to become successful matrure plants. Most of the plants the public buy at GCs die not that long after buying. I suspect a lot of rose plants go the same way.
In my garden groups I have given away hundreds of plants over the last five years and seeds. I am having a big rethink as many of those have died or the seeds are still at the back of neighbourhood cupboards. Such a waste.
I don't think roses are harder to grow than other plants. The only risk I can think of is planting a potted rose in dry weather without watering it often enough during the first 3 months.
I guess it depends on the roses. There are more modern ones where you can put them in and leave them to themselves - healthy and bushy. The way I am growing roses and the problems I am having, I never had with a choisya, for example. For the pleasure of roses it is, for me, worth the effort and all the discussion here about cultivation. But I do geniuinely understand why people get concerned about starting with growing roses - aspect, soil, disease, pruning. My neighbours plant them in dark corners or right next to another rose and they die.
I don't think all the gardening shows and glossy pictures in the catalogues etc help. People are sold the impression of perpetual flowering with no work (as with all garden bling). The expectations are too high and the disappointments too great.
@Victoria Sponge ..where are you putting your Triomphe des Noisette ?..
oh I remember, I think you said putting it over an outbuilding?..
In my picture over the page with the blue arbour seat, I've put it on the lhs fence, with the hopes it might get tall enough to train onto the roof (or give the impression of it). I've got Warm Welcome on the other side which theoretically I should really like (tough as a boot, strong colour, takes care of itself etc) but somehow it's never really set me on fire so I've planted Reine des Violettes nearby to obscure the water tank on the other side (it's developed a lean and a leak so need to sort that this year) If RdV gets big enough I might remove WW and then neither rose might need rigidly training onto the arbour, they can just fluff up the sides.
Yes I have Walferdange, it's one of my front garden heroes. It carried on flowering quite late and has put out a new low shoot (not a basal) so all good so far.
Re sawfly, maybe this was just a blip but I didn't see signs of any last year and I had them (or noticed them) for the first time in 2020. I didn't do anything to them. I think I had the caterpillar rollers back early last year and already have one rolled up in Alfred Colomb. Mrs Oakley Fisher had loads last year but just pushed past it. Alfred Colomb I'll put on extra rations as it's already suffering from poor husbandry and I had to move to a better space over winter.
Neighbours opposite have a standard rose planted in a small pot at the front of their house. The rose is long dead, but does have a suckered stem, poking out at an awkward angle from the trunk. Although I think even that may not survive for munch longer. It looks fairly dead at the moment.
A sad, sorry looking thing. But it’s been like that for at least 5 years. They’ve just left it there. Some people just aren’t that interested in gardening...
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I don't think all the gardening shows and glossy pictures in the catalogues etc help. People are sold the impression of perpetual flowering with no work (as with all garden bling). The expectations are too high and the disappointments too great.
Yes I have Walferdange, it's one of my front garden heroes. It carried on flowering quite late and has put out a new low shoot (not a basal) so all good so far.
Re sawfly, maybe this was just a blip but I didn't see signs of any last year and I had them (or noticed them) for the first time in 2020. I didn't do anything to them. I think I had the caterpillar rollers back early last year and already have one rolled up in Alfred Colomb. Mrs Oakley Fisher had loads last year but just pushed past it. Alfred Colomb I'll put on extra rations as it's already suffering from poor husbandry and I had to move to a better space over winter.
A sad, sorry looking thing. But it’s been like that for at least 5 years. They’ve just left it there. Some people just aren’t that interested in gardening...
I bet that was given as a gift!
They don’t have any other plants.