What exactly is the definition of child poverty in the UK ? Is it solely malnutrition or does it go further than that ? If it is based on malnutrition, is it that healthy food is both unaffordable for many people or is it sometimes a lack of skill in producing a decent meal from scratch as opposed to a Quickie processed job ? Many schools provide Breakfast Clubs for youngsters who leave home without having something inside them - have people come to rely on this as opposed to any other option ? Food banks are also well used ( and I dare say abused too ). There is also surely the issue of population control - in "poor" countries having many children was considered necessary - you needed them to work and provide and the fact that child mortality was high added to the need to reproduce. That is no longer the case in the UK or other 1st world countries. Child poverty is seeing kids scrambling about in rubbish tips, working in factories and endangering themselves in order to produce something which we in the Western world xontinue to happily buy. Something to be rightly ashamed of but little sign of western govts doing much about it .Rather like anything else, you need to question what you buy and where from. No doubt at all that poverty still reigns in today's world - not likely to change in the forseeable future. Â
What exactly is the definition of child poverty in the UK ? Is it solely malnutrition or does it go further than that ?
It's based on income relative to the national average
"Households with an income less than 60 per cent of the UK average (ÂŁ29,600 as of last year) are in poverty, according to the Government. That means families earning ÂŁ17,760 or less are defined as living in relative poverty."
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My income then defines myself and OH as living in poverty - even without children to consider. Perhaps "poverty" has a completely different meaning these days ? Thanks for explaining the new definition anyway:)
The PM claimed the other day that child poverty is decreasing. This is an indication either that he is woefully uninformed, or a liar. Â
He has no concern whatever for truth. Never has, including in his career as a journalist. He prefers a good story and it has served him well. You now will often hear it said that there is no 'truth' and everything just depends on your perspective on an issue. This is where Bojo and Trump had most in common, really, this view that fact is a mutable idea that can be changed or ignored at will. And there is no political price to pay for stating one thing today and the complete opposite tomorrow - the only people who notice were never going to vote for you anyway so yah boo, who cares? The loyal voters just shout fake news and keep voting for him because he's such a refreshing change from the Establishment Tories with lots of money and privileged upbringing (yes, I know, it makes no difference though, does it?). There was a bit of a to-do on the BBC around the elections because the vox-pop person they interviewed said that he'd voted Tory (Hartlepool by-election) because he was fed up with the labour MP closing the police stations and running down the health service and it was time for a change. And the interviewer just nodded without making any, even mild observation about the inaccuracies of all that. That was his 'truth' and so it can't be challenged.
I blame Nicola Sturgeon
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
âIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.âÂ
I think the shocking thing is that child poverty exists at all in a first world country. There is enough of everything to go around but unfortunately the very rich get richer at the expense of those at the bottom of the heap! It angers me that in a country where billionaires fiddle their taxes children and adults go to bed hungry. We should be ashamed that food banks are essential in 2021
When I got divorced from my 1st husband who tried to kill me,my boss came to my hoi, said they didn't want me working in their fine respected family firm when it got into the papers. I went to the benefits office,in those days,you were in a queue everyone behind could hear your personal business. My husband quickly cleared out his bank account,I never received your penny in child maintenance,he also had the child benefit book.my car and phone sent Immediately, I bought a wheeled shopper,walked to town,got cheapest basics,my kids were entitled to free school meals,my then 12 year old went mad,told me not to claim them,he was too proud. I myself lived on what used to be called thy breadline,bit of white toast for up to 3 meals.walked to the phone box to make calls.
I know exactly what you mean @Nanny Beach. Â Similar with me and my daughter at one time. We joined the library so she could borrow the latest records free, no chance of buying them for her. Â Scouring the moors for bits of wood so we could light a fire.Â
I think thereâs a difference in poverty these days to what it was in the past. Â Even worse for our parents. Â No one wants to go back to that, but we all survived. There are more obese kids around now than ever. Â And People if it comes to it.Â
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If it is based on malnutrition, is it that healthy food is both unaffordable for many people or is it sometimes a lack of skill in producing a decent meal from scratch as opposed to a Quickie processed job ?
Many schools provide Breakfast Clubs for youngsters who leave home without having something inside them - have people come to rely on this as opposed to any other option ? Food banks are also well used ( and I dare say abused too ). There is also surely the issue of population control - in "poor" countries having many children was considered necessary - you needed them to work and provide and the fact that child mortality was high added to the need to reproduce. That is no longer the case in the UK or other 1st world countries.Â
Child poverty is seeing kids scrambling about in rubbish tips, working in factories and endangering themselves in order to produce something which we in the Western world xontinue to happily buy. Something to be rightly ashamed of but little sign of western govts doing much about it .Rather like anything else, you need to question what you buy and where from.
No doubt at all that poverty still reigns in today's world - not likely to change in the forseeable future.
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"Households with an income less than 60 per cent of the UK average (ÂŁ29,600 as of last year) are in poverty, according to the Government. That means families earning ÂŁ17,760 or less are defined as living in relative poverty."
âIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.âÂ
Perhaps "poverty" has a completely different meaning these days ?
Thanks for explaining the new definition anyway:)
There was a bit of a to-do on the BBC around the elections because the vox-pop person they interviewed said that he'd voted Tory (Hartlepool by-election) because he was fed up with the labour MP closing the police stations and running down the health service and it was time for a change. And the interviewer just nodded without making any, even mild observation about the inaccuracies of all that. That was his 'truth' and so it can't be challenged.
I blame Nicola Sturgeon
âIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.âÂ
âIt's still magic even if you know how it's done.âÂ
We joined the library so she could borrow the latest records free, no chance of buying them for her. Â Scouring the moors for bits of wood so we could light a fire.Â
I think thereâs a difference in poverty these days to what it was in the past. Â Even worse for our parents. Â No one wants to go back to that, but we all survived.
There are more obese kids around now than ever. Â And People if it comes to it.Â
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.