If people want to believe in a god that's their business ........ but when I'm in charge there will be NO SECTARIAN/RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS OF ANY DENOMINATION! Unless everyone learns to get on together and tolerate (or even enjoy) difference as children, there is no hope for the world.
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Aiui they bring kids along to avoid assault. It seems you either get two bruisers who look like they can look after themselves or a woman with a young child. Even the most vehemently anti religion would probably baulk at assaulting a mother with young child. The courts would love that! No chance of mitigating causes.
All I can say about this thread since religion started to get talked about is the prejudice and hatred of the atheists on here. I hope I don't come across like that too!
Bending down to a 7 yo to abuse her parent's religion too. A nasty act imho.
Having said that I did almost that but my discussion was addressed 100% to the adult in both tone and content. I spoke adult to adult with a young child present but I'd never target the child like that. Not right imho.
People need to look to their own failings too. Militant atheism is as wrong as Militant religion. Perhaps Militant is wrong word but I can't think of the atheists equivalent to evangelical.
My dear late Mother was the absolute embodiment of Christianity. When she was in her last day in a hospice dying from lung cancer and in constant pain , I asked her: "Have you made peace with God?" "No God would ever put someone through this much pain" was her reply.
That's very much aligned with my thoughts. My father was sports mad, played cricket and hockey for the RAF and had a heart attack at 34. He lived for another 30 years but got very little enjoyment from the rest of his life. Would a 'caring God' do that?
My best friend was a keen footballer and referee who was slowly destroyed by a disease which killed him over a period of about 8 years. Firstly affecting his legs, then general mobility and finally his ability to breathe for himself. Would a 'caring God' do that?
My grandmother did all her own gardening, including maintaining a large veg plot until her mid 80s, then suffered a stroke which left her completely compos mentis, but unable to do anything for herself for the last year of her life. Same question again?
I could give many more examples but think I've made my point.
If people want to believe in a god that's their business ........ but when I'm in charge there will be NO SECTARIAN/RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS OF ANY DENOMINATION! Unless everyone learns to get on together and tolerate (or even enjoy) difference as children, there is no hope for the world.
It's a difficult one because of how badly a lot of schools are run. Round my neighbourhood and area the religious schools have better head teachers and governors who actually hold the head to account. The neutral, community schools are pathetic except for one. Sycophantic governors hanging on every piece of BS the egotistical heads give out. Of course ymmv.
If people want to believe in a god that's their business ........ but when I'm in charge there will be NO SECTARIAN/RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS OF ANY DENOMINATION! Unless everyone learns to get on together and tolerate (or even enjoy) difference as children, there is no hope for the world.
It's a difficult one because of how badly a lot of schools are run. Round my neighbourhood and area the religious schools have better head teachers and governors who actually hold the head to account. The neutral, community schools are pathetic except for one. Sycophantic governors hanging on every piece of BS the egotistical heads give out. Of course ymmv.
So why couldn't or wouldn't those talented head teachers and governors be involved in other, non-religious schools?
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Pay? Conditions? Academy schools and church schools have more freedom to set pay and working conditions and even the curriculum than state or council run schools.
I am atheist but sent Possum to a local RC run secondary school because they actually taught comparative religion and I wanted her to understand the Judeo-Christian roots of our society but have a basic idea of other religions so she could make up her own mind. In Belgium, the state run schools have no RI of any kind and also do not have the power to exclude unruly kids. I knew one such lad who was still repeating his 3rd senior academic year aged 17. Couldn't be good for him or the usual 14yr olds in that class.
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"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
The difference between Athiests and "people of faith" is that the former never knock on folks doors to "preach" at them. If someone comes, uninvited and knocks on my door and starts to lecture me, they , and those with them deserve all they get.
When people of faith knock on my door I smile, say hello and tell them straight away that I'm an atheist, I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade them to share my view and I'd appreciate it if we didn't waste each other's time discussing it. They usually look rather taken aback and then clear off.
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When people of faith knock on my door I smile, say hello and tell them straight away that I'm an atheist, I wouldn't dream of trying to persuade them to share my view and I'd appreciate it if we didn't waste each other's time discussing it. They usually look rather taken aback and then clear off.
I have a sign on my front door "no salespersons or religious callers" To my constant surprise it almost always does the job. Even JWs.
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All I can say about this thread since religion started to get talked about is the prejudice and hatred of the atheists on here. I hope I don't come across like that too!
Bending down to a 7 yo to abuse her parent's religion too. A nasty act imho.
Having said that I did almost that but my discussion was addressed 100% to the adult in both tone and content. I spoke adult to adult with a young child present but I'd never target the child like that. Not right imho.
People need to look to their own failings too. Militant atheism is as wrong as Militant religion. Perhaps Militant is wrong word but I can't think of the atheists equivalent to evangelical.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I am atheist but sent Possum to a local RC run secondary school because they actually taught comparative religion and I wanted her to understand the Judeo-Christian roots of our society but have a basic idea of other religions so she could make up her own mind. In Belgium, the state run schools have no RI of any kind and also do not have the power to exclude unruly kids. I knew one such lad who was still repeating his 3rd senior academic year aged 17. Couldn't be good for him or the usual 14yr olds in that class.
The difference between Athiests and "people of faith" is that the former never knock on folks doors to "preach" at them.
If someone comes, uninvited and knocks on my door and starts to lecture me, they , and those with them deserve all they get.