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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    K67 said:
    Whatever you think about JWs they have been persecuted beaten, put in concentration camps, some have spent years in solitary confinement, some are in prison for not doing army service in their country, Eritrea has held some for 26 years.
    70 years ago Russia sent them to Siberia. Now they are again banned in Russia as being extremist and again imprisoned for having a Bible, singing their songs or meeting.
    They have a website https://www.jw.org/en/ which is pretty impressive as it has stuff in almost 1000 languages. 
    So like or loathe your choice but interestingly the first page on the site asks 'Is their a cure for predjudice?' 


    and how many homosexuals have been banished from their families by JWs?
    I guess homophobia is an acceptable prejudice if you're JW?
    Devon.
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    I take the view that if they don't bother me, I won't bother them.  No one should be persecuted for their beliefs any more than a pacifist should be forced to fight.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I think the irony is that so many of the most devout "people of faith" are amongst the poorest .
    Indian Hindus.
    Pakistani Muslims.
    Anglican Africans,
    Phiilipino Catholics? 
    To name but a few.
    You'd think they're gods had just abandoned them?
    Devon.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Access to good education does wonders for your perspective on religion.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • KiliKili Posts: 1,104
    Obelixx said:
    @NorthernJoe - religion, from the first "medicine man" to the "prophets" and everything since in any format or creed, is always about controlling and ordering people and society.

    Historically, it's the biggest con in the world - RC church is a perfect pyramid scam - and perpetrated by a select few to concentrate money and power to their benefit whilst convincing the masses they need to follow or risk eternal hell in one form or another.

    What astonishes me is that, despite literacy, the availability of info and enlightenment in books, on TV, film, the internet and so on, people are still falling for it with new converts as well as continuing adherence by people born or brought up in it. 


    Spot on Obelixx I've never understood how anyone with even just a basic modern education can still believe such nonsense.


    Here's a link that makes sense.

    "Humanists are people who shape their own lives in the here and now, because we believe it's the only life we have. We make sense of the world through logic, reason, and evidence, and always seek to treat those around us with warmth, understanding, and respect."

    'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.

    George Bernard Shaw'

  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    When my parents were in the RAF and living in married quarters, my Mum got rid of them very quickly.  She explained to them that 'incitement to disaffection' of a member of the armed forces was a criminal offence, and that if they ever came back again she would call the police.  They never did come back.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I see Boris, with absolutely no irony, has told the BBC off for lying. Maybe they just need the details of where Boris buys his flame proof underpants...
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    My Mum’s four sisters, my aunts, were all nuns and, during my childhood, stayed with us from time to time. They always wore full fig so one of them answering the door put paid to Jehovah’s Witnesses in double quick time.
    Rutland, England
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    I will defend anyone's right to follow whichever religion they chose. And I will defend my right not to be preached at by any of them. Religion should be a private choice carried out among consenting adults. My problem with JWs is primarily the way they behave towards people who have been members of their church and who chose to leave. That and their attitude to chocolate biscuits
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I will defend anyone's right to follow whichever religion they chose. And I will defend my right not to be preached at by any of them. Religion should be a private choice carried out among consenting adults. My problem with JWs is primarily the way they behave towards people who have been members of their church and who chose to leave. That and their attitude to chocolate biscuits
    and blood transfusions,and evolution
    Devon.
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