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  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Science has no more answers than religion. Science only ever knows what science knows at a point in time. Science doesn't create (it can't create something that 'the rules' doesn't allow it to create - it doesn't make the 'laws'), it just documents the laws it finds. Irrespective of which philosophical method you subscribe to  you always end up with '...but what happened before that...' ie the if G_d created the universe who created G-d issue. And as with any power, science gets misused and abused as much as religion or politics or....

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I suppose if we stop thinking of time as linear, it might go some way to solving your conundrum @steveTu
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Who created time. whether linear or not?

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    @NorthernJoe - religion, from the first "medicine man" to the "prophets" and everything since in any format or creed, is always about controlling and ordering people and society.

    Historically, it's the biggest con in the world - RC church is a perfect pyramid scam - and perpetrated by a select few to concentrate money and power to their benefit whilst convincing the masses they need to follow or risk eternal hell in one form or another.

    What astonishes me is that, despite literacy, the availability of info and enlightenment in books, on TV, film, the internet and so on, people are still falling for it with new converts as well as continuing adherence by people born or brought up in it. 
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Maybe it's genetic. Some people have a need for religion and some don't. Some need to believe in life after death and some don't.  Some hope there is some hope there isn't.I
    I remember reading about missionaries visiting tribes with had no concept of property or ownership. Hard to 'save' someone who does not steal or covet and thinks lust is quite normal.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Religiosity is a psychological phenomenon - all aspects of it have a psychological explanation. Belief in life after death, disembodied minds, rules of behaviour, rituals, the priesthood, worship and faith can all be explained by psychologists. 
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited May 2021
    Religion is the most evil form of brainwashing and control ever devised by man. 
    If you indoctrinate a child from Day 1 about Gods, Prophets or whatever, with no alternative offered,and this is enforced by teachers, priests ( rabbis, imans or whatever ) and even the State: that , to me is Brainwashing.
    Don't even start me on the genital mutilation of boys and girls in the name of religion. Total barbarism.
    Devon.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Some very interesting posts on here. I had a book called "are we hardwired to believe in God" obviously some people are. If Adam and Eve only had the 2 sons, where did everyone else come from?
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Some very interesting posts on here. I had a book called "are we hardwired to believe in God" obviously some people are. If Adam and Eve only had the 2 sons, where did everyone else come from?
    and what colour were they? 

    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Then there's the whole " Ours is a religion of peace. If you don't convert, we'll kill you " 
    Christians were very good at that in the past.
    Devon.
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