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HELLO FORKERS 🐇 🐣 🐑 March ‘21

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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    PlantyPru said:
    .... I was going to watch but I've heard that much about it all day I don't know if I want to anymore 
    I feel the same ... I just think it’s all so sad ... William was right ... he told Harry to take more time. Meghan had no idea what she was getting into. Apparently she says in the interview that she was ‘used to celebrities; I see them all the time in LA’.  The Royals aren’t celebrities ... the way they behave is so different to celebrities.  Neither M nor H understood how the other would interpret ‘stuff’. Another example of ‘you don’t know what you don’t know’ ... 😒 
    Why anyone should thing that the "royal " family should be any better, or worse than any of ours, is beyond me.
    I think they've been treated very shoddily, especially by Charlie, but then again, look how he treated Harry's mother.
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    And he was treated pretty badly by his parents. It’s why I became a Republican when I was 15 ... it’s an inhumane way for anyone to live. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    And he was treated pretty badly by his parents. It’s why I became a Republican when I was 15 ... it’s an inhumane way for anyone to live. 
    Exactly, it's almost like being born into slavery with no proper sense of self determination. And now we see what happens when one of them dares want to determine their own future.
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    The thing is by the time the want to do it they’re not equipped emotionally or intellectually to strike out on their own. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    edited March 2021
    The thing is by the time the want to do it they’re not equipped emotionally or intellectually to strike out on their own. 
    perhaps so, but , like the rest of us, we sometimes need to make mistakes to recognise our errors, but we should be free to make our choices ; good ones and bad ones.
    Some of the hatred I've heard directed towards them both has been breathtaking.
    Devon.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I will not be watching.  It's been done to death already on the news.   I don't understand why it all arouse such strong reactions either way.   

    Given the alternatives I think, as an institution, the royal family is good for the UK but is seriously mistaken in how "special" they are and don't have any grasp of how inhuman they can seem to others and they don't learn form past mistakes in the way they treat their own, let alone those marrying in.

    If Charles had been more confident about himself he'd have married Camilla when he was a young man but instead he dithered and lost her.  His behaviour towards Diana was appalling, cruel and insensitive.  No wonder she rebelled and spoke out.  They lost a huge asset in her, especially her work in AIDS and land mines.   I feel desperately sorry for her two boys, even now.   

    I was rather proud of Harry for loving Megan and had hoped she would be allowed to be a breath of fresh air to help bring the family and its doings into the modern era but they've missed another great opportunity.  On the other hand, I think Harry and especially Megan have been and are being naïve and inconsistent and will alienate many.  Once again, Charles is behaving appallingly.

    Despite all that, the royals are better than the alternatives - imagine the costs and tedium and hype of having to promote and elect a president every 4 or 5 years.   The royal family with all its history and pageantry also generates an enormous income for the UK and helps bring together all sorts of disparate countries in the Commonwealth work they do.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Allotment BoyAllotment Boy Posts: 6,774
    I'm not sure who he was but someone on R4, said he found the family were fine it was the palace officials who were the rigid,  and insensitive ones. I think certain things were wrongly perceived because they were not explained properly.  Once they stopped being working royals they automatically lost the right to security paid for by the British taxpayer. They weren't being picked on that's just how it is.  That's just one example. 
    AB Still learning

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    Good evening all.

    My friend's funeral was sad but a nice service in English in the small village church then burial in the village graveyard. B's grave only about 2 or 3 metres from my first OH's grave. I got a bit of a shock though because the next door grave was someone I knew in the village, a French man, I didn't know he'd died. I used to be quite friendly with him and his wife when I was weaning my daughter's filly and needed to separate her from my mare, they had her in their paddock for a bit.

    After the funeral I went back to F's house with another friend for coffee and a chat. F asked me to stay for lunch, don't think she wanted to be on her own straight away, so I stayed for a bit. Then I came home and planted the last 2 shrubs. Since then OH and my 2 sons have all phoned. Eaten the piece of the pizza left that I started the other day. Can't eat a whole pizza anymore. Son 2 yesterday and a couple of friends today said I look thinner. I was able to wear a coat I haven't worn for years. Thank goodness, because my usual anorak needs washing.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    A poignant day @Busy-Lizzie 🤗 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    Harry and Meghan - meh. It's not news that the British Establishment are racist, is it? Why the sharp intake of breath? You can't modernise an institution that is, by definition, anachronistic. They are paid to be at least 2 centuries behind the times. Phillip has never made much secret of his views and Charles has let his slip a few times as well. It doesn't really signify anything except the perversity of the British public in continuing to support them, despite their very obvious shortcomings.

    They should all read more Charles Causley. Better to eat frugal and free in a far distant tree than down all the wrong diet in jail.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
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