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The New ROSE Season 2021...

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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Fire
    Re roses as annuals... yes I grow them in pots, and by the end of the season I make a judgement call on whether to keep for another year or not..  if they black spot too much, little scent, overrated, or ugly growth habit, they're gone...  it needs to please my eye to remain, and then I might put it in the garden...

    I accept the gamble and wastage, which some might think rather criminal.. but I have to be strict about it, and I like to buy a few different roses each year.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    @Nollie Well this is the state of Mutabilis...

     
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..that's gone @Omori
    ..the only green cane is blackening from the top.. that's finished... sorry.. 
    East Anglia, England
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    Thanks @Marlorena I’ll chuck it out. I have a Buttercup or Lark Ascending that can go there instead. 
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Nollie I think they are just enough hardy for the UK (or maybe for the milder parts only, seeing Marlorena's post). So you are probably right.
    @Marlorena Yes, they are expensive. I would prefer smaller pots for the foxgloves and bigger pots for the salvias but they were sold out. It's almost like last year, every gardening shop is incredibly busy and prices go up.
    Macplants closed just after you made your orders. I waited a bit too long. First, they promised to open on 19th March, then on 26th, then after the Easter weekend... now there is no date, so I keep checking every other day or so. I think there were some gaps, some people must have been able to put orders in. It's crazy. I looked elsewhere but I want some specific plants that are hard to find.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Oh you think is is laxa, @Marlorena? I was stumped as it didn’t look like the rest of them, that middle section, between the graft and the roots is less than an inch long. Could the rootstock have been cut down so short it didn’t have the energy to survive? Yes the roots are very dead and brown, they just snap. Obviously TCL had a bad batch @Omori, are you going to let them know? Mine was free so I don’t want a refund, but I’m wondering if they would appreciate the feedback? I think any good nursery would.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @edhelka
    ..yes they do have nice selection.. you would think they would want all the orders they can get wouldn't you? but maybe there are not many staff, it's so difficult with everything the way it is.

    @Nollie
    ..I've no reason to think that's not Laxa but they do use other rootstocks.. it looks similar to what I see here..
    A couple of examples of some I received showing a short trunk [the shaft]..
    Look at the one on the right... these from T White's..

    ..this from Cottage Memories.... 


    ..not unusual... 
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I've not seen this before on 'Kew Gardens' but a few tips have suffered in the cold last night.. and I doubt these will recover or survive another frost tonight..  
    These are my only casualties so far..  I hoped they might spring back today, but no...





    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Ah OK, thanks @Marlorena, I’ve never had one that short before, they have always been much longer. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Nollie The grafted bud is placed between the ground and the first (dormant) bud or between two buds on the rootstock rose cane. A short incision is cut in the bark, the bud is placed there and taped in. When it grows together with the rose, everything above it can be cut off, forcing the new bud to grow. I think they would choose a place on the cane that is suitable - smooth, easy to cut, and a reasonable distance from the ground, so it is easy to place the bud there. I guess sometimes this can be higher on the cane, sometimes lower. 
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