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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I don't understand why anyone gets worked up about a group of folk they don't know playing a game with another group of folk they don't know. 
    Playing it, having someone you actually KNOW playing it, fine, I'd get that .

    Devon.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    pansyface said:
    At least Sainsbury's and Tesco don't endlessly change their logos / bags etc to sucker their supporters to endlessly fork out a fortune for shoddily made replica "kits" . 

    Ooh, I still have four large bags that Waitrose gave me, for free when they opened a new branch, made of tough canvas with strong wooden handles. They must be at least twenty five, maybe thirty, years old and are still going strong.  

    They have Waitrose printed across them and I used to delight in going into other supermarkets with them.😁
    Unlike wearing the " wrong " football shirt, I bet nobody has abused/spat upon you for carrying it. 
    Devon.
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    I know it's not rational .... but I love my team to bits.
    And it is my team ... I was born 3 miles from the ground, and went from a very early age until I had to move to Scotland with work. Also, our team does include some local lads, and not just foreign players.

    But we are all different.
    What I can't fathom is how anybody gets hooked on TV shows about people who can't dance/bake etc. 
      

    I'll get my tin hat on now.

    Bee x
    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889

    What I can't fathom is how anybody gets hooked on TV shows about people who can't dance/bake etc. 
      

    I'll get my tin hat on now.

    Bee x
    Especially when they are " celebrities " I've never heard of
    Devon.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Why do you have to 'know' someone to enjoy their achievements? And why do they have to be 'local'? (What is local anyway - ask Boris for a definition - local changes with time and speed doesn't it? - that's why the world has shrunk). Anyone here actually know Hillary or Tenzing Norgay - but wouldn't you all agree their achievement (they competed against the mountain and weather) was amazing. No?
    I get 'excited' by the oiks in the Oxford-Cambridge boat race that I don't know from Adam. What about Capt. Tom - what if people said - 'well, he's not local and I don't know him anyway'.. didn't he compete against his age and infirmity? Locality and knowing someone isn't what drives whether you find something interesting, moving or compelling is it? It's the action isn't it?
    So it matters not whether the team I like is local or remote, it matters not if I know the players or not or if they're local to the team or not. In the old days it would have all been local - the local club, with local boys who met at the local pub and went to local clubs and married local girls. They also had horse and carts and followed the carts for the manure...It took a day to travel 25 miles... but the world changes and 'the wireless' and TV (and now the net) came and where in the past the only team you had a chance to hear or watch was 'local', now you can see teams from around the globe. You don't move to the team, they come to you.
    By picking a team it just increases the excitement (or frustration) of the game. Much like picking a horse in the Grand National - the race is of more interest if you are invested in it (well to me anyway). I support Spurs because me old bro did ... and he did because my mum's family were from Barnes and they took him to watch Chelsea and that put him off them for life. And who couldn't love the way Greaves and Gilzean played or who could watch Jennings pluck the ball out of the air with one hand or Hoddle put Archibald in with a ball with so much backspin it fell into his stride perfectly or.......? Aaaah, the beautiful game was invented at White Hart Lane....'.."The great fallacy is that the game is first and last about winning. It is nothing of the kind. The game is about glory, it is about doing things in style and with a flourish, about going out and beating the lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."...' (Can you hear me Jose?)


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    They have Waitrose printed across them and I used to delight in going into other supermarkets with them.😁”

    I took my jute F&M bag to the self service checkout at Tesco in Corby, put it down to the left of the scanner, and got the message “unexpected item in bagging area”. How did it know?
    Rutland, England
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    I don't get football etc either. OH does but he doesn't bore me witless with it and I don't bore him witless with gardening. Each to their own! He does support his local team from where he grew up, though thick and thin (mostly thin, it has to be said). What he doesn't realise is that I probably spend as much or more on the garden as he does on his footy season ticket :D
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    steveTu said:
    Why do you have to 'know' someone to enjoy their achievements?
    Anyone here actually know Hillary or Tenzing Norgay - but wouldn't you all agree their achievement (they competed against the mountain and weather) was amazing. No?
    What about Capt. Tom - what if people said - 'well, he's not local and I don't know him anyway'.. didn't he compete against his age and infirmity? 
    Admiring someone's achievements, even giving money to the charity their achievements support, is really not the same. I haven't seen the 300 hours of TV pundits analysing whether Captain Tom's technique with his walking frame was as good as some other 100 year old war veteran's. Perhaps I missed it. And Hillary is a bad example because people climbing mountains and expecting me to be impressed is something else that makes me curmudgeonly. Yes, I couldn't do it, but I couldn't paint a double yellow line down the road either and I'm not expected to celebrate that each time someone does it.

    @philippasmith2 Sport generally has a place in our culture out of all proportion to the scope of the 'achievement'. Bearing in mind this is Curmudgeon's Corner, I feel I can be annoyed by it here, even if in the 'real' world and I have to smile and say 'gosh you must have been so happy that your team won'. I 'accept' it. But it still irritates me

    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Why not just accept that some people like to follow a chosen sport to a greater or lesser degree ?
    Why not also accept that other people have no interest in sport at all ?

    Quite simple I'd have thought :)   

    Where's the fun in that?

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Why not just accept that some people like to follow a chosen sport to a greater or lesser degree ?
    Why not also accept that other people have no interest in sport at all ?

    Quite simple I'd have thought :)   


    Absolutely right.  I enjoy watching top level sport, even when performances don't necessarily live up to expectation.  I have a team I follow but have only watched them in the stadium once.  I'm far more interested in competitive matches than in who actually wins.  If Scotland are playing I want them to win, but if not I don't automatically want England to lose.  Not all sports fans are rabid fools.
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