Glad you're home @punkdoc. I hope you heal well and quickly. Sounds like everyone else is doing OK - unless I missed something reading back
We had somewhere close to 50mm rain yesterday. I'm pretty sure even the runner beans will have had sufficient by now. Our telephone cable has been going off when it rains so I am able to report that it's rained most days since the beginning of June. Even the fields that were completely brown at the end of May have greened over now. So if whoever keeps messing about with the taps could turn it off again now? This whole 'rainrainrainrainstop ' thing is getting a bit wearisome. Whatever happened to 3 fine days and a thunderstorm? It's a good system. We should have stuck with it.
I'm planning to watch the Salisbury progs at the weekend.
Government procurement is a deeply flawed process. Whether it's for IT systems or for buildings or for nuclear warheads. People who don't understand what they're buying shouldn't be in charge of the decisions about what to buy.
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
IME there are two sorts of people involved in these things ...
1. The people who really understand computers and software and programming.
2. The people who understand the job that the computer system is needed for ... these may be experts in medicine, policing or, in my personal experience, children’s social work.
I was part of the team explaining to the folk in Group 1 exactly what we in Group 2 needed the system to do and especially that it needed to be able to share information with the police and NHS systems ... otherwise we might just as well type stuff out and put it in the post to each other. make phone calls or hold face to face meetings to exchange information like we’d always done ... resulting in children slipping through the net and important pieces of information being missed eg that Ian Huntley was likely to be a danger to children.
What we discovered three and a half years later was that the system they’d built for us could do none of the above.
Not only do the brains of folk in Group 1 work differently to ours in Group 2, but they speak an entirely different language ... they must do ... they honestly thought they’d provided everything we’d asked for 🤯
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I've read back, agree with you all, but at the moment the most important thing going on is that the slugs are eating all my plants, and the slug pellets and coming back for more - seriously!
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Been up half hour (have I beaten you Dove) washing and dishwashing done, lots of baking yesterday, it was grandsons birthday made him a cake (Call of Duty) sausage rolls, and protein breakfast bars, this time using fruit from the plot instead of dry, Hubby who hates anything like that, always says they look and taste like cardboard!! (me, neither, never eaten cardboard!!) had one. I did actually wash up mixing bowls inbetween each bake, but thought I deserved the dishwasher, and it uses less water. Did actually have a little rain (dunno what 50cm looks like) I am rubbish at all things IT.When we started using it at the hospital where I worked, the day staff used an empty unit at the end of our ward, where they used to do blood stuff at day patients, we had to lean over the IT woman at midnight while still dealing with the patients. I had had no dealings whatsoever with a computer. We were taughtHad to go to IT womans office, get special password, she started at the admissions,discharges and transfers, and did them overnight because we had more time than the day staff. That was fine, then they changed the system a few years later. I did one course, for some reason she put me up the front what I typed came up on her white board. I was typing everything out, woman next to me said all sarcastically "Why dont you just use the drop down menu", because I didnt know there was one, we did have any kind of home PC, I just did the 3 things mentioned. Then we had to put our address, she said the system wont accept a fake postcode, so use your own, course mine comes up on the whiteboard, these 4 women (from ITU) were sniggering at the name of my house, (It was the name of a Scottish and Greek island) the house 2 doors down was called Pevensey. I am nearly in tears by now, ready to walk out. Last lesson, is in a portacabin, heater has broken down, she is wearing coat and gloves, me thin top,trousers,cardi, straight after 12 hour nigh shift, feeling cold,tired,ill, never learnt a thing.My senior took over, I never got any practice. You had to go to IT office to get special passcode, I finnished work at 7.15 then she started at 9 IF she was in. Same when I wanted to retire, (by now I have a 52 mile commute home) I stayed an hour after my now 12.5 hour night shift, to visit office at 9, she wasnt there, tried ringing, This extension doesnt take messages. Drive you nuts!! Hubby has similar troubles at work, they change systems, and it doesnt work with previous, a few months back, they lost every single customer detail!! Give me pen and paper any day
Hi all, sorry I usually only lurk on this thread but had to chime in today...
my job is basically translator between your two examples Dove... I listen to what the end user wants and act as translator for the tech geeks, then write the processes in operations and finance speak so that folks know what to do......
I have to admit sometimes the tech team seem to be on another planet when you put them directly in the same meeting as the operation teams... it’s like we are two entirely different species.
Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.
Hello @Jacquimcmahon 😊 and welcome ... do please feel free to chime in whenever .... and how interesting your job must be .... can we arranged to have you cloned? There should be many many more of you 👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻👩🏻
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Lol Dove have to admit I never thought I would do this for a living! I trained as a Hotel manager and just kind of fell into this when we realized at the opening of our resort that tech teams make bad trainers and that operators needed to get hand holding from someone that could bridge the language barrier between the two.... my team just kind of grew organically over the years🤓
Marne la vallée, basically just outside Paris 🇫🇷, but definitely Scottish at heart.
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Glad you're home @punkdoc. I hope you heal well and quickly.
Sounds like everyone else is doing OK - unless I missed something reading back
We had somewhere close to 50mm rain yesterday. I'm pretty sure even the runner beans will have had sufficient by now. Our telephone cable has been going off when it rains so I am able to report that it's rained most days since the beginning of June. Even the fields that were completely brown at the end of May have greened over now. So if whoever keeps messing about with the taps could turn it off again now? This whole 'rainrainrainrainstop ' thing is getting a bit wearisome. Whatever happened to 3 fine days and a thunderstorm? It's a good system. We should have stuck with it.
I'm planning to watch the Salisbury progs at the weekend.
Government procurement is a deeply flawed process. Whether it's for IT systems or for buildings or for nuclear warheads. People who don't understand what they're buying shouldn't be in charge of the decisions about what to buy.
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
1. The people who really understand computers and software and programming.
I was part of the team explaining to the folk in Group 1 exactly what we in Group 2 needed the system to do and especially that it needed to be able to share information with the police and NHS systems ... otherwise we might just as well type stuff out and put it in the post to each other. make phone calls or hold face to face meetings to exchange information like we’d always done ... resulting in children slipping through the net and important pieces of information being missed eg that Ian Huntley was likely to be a danger to children.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I've read back, agree with you all, but at the moment the most important thing going on is that the slugs are eating all my plants, and the slug pellets
Goodness me ... we’ve both slept in late ... we’ll late for us anyway ... I didn’t even hear the milkman!
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
my job is basically translator between your two examples Dove... I listen to what the end user wants and act as translator for the tech geeks, then write the processes in operations and finance speak so that folks know what to do......
I have to admit sometimes the tech team seem to be on another planet when you put them directly in the same meeting as the operation teams... it’s like we are two entirely different species.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
we have been told that we might get snow or rain over night, so took some photos of the sky.
Our little industrial area on the outskirts of town.
Will talk a bit later.