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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    I tried the clematis part of HMF but there's never enough photos, at least not for the varieties I am interested in. Probably because not many people know about it.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2020
    ...next time anybody goes on DA Facebook, ask them about 'Josephine Hooker'... I bet none of them will have heard of it... and you won't find it on HMF either...

    I've been trying to get hold of it for years..

    East Anglia, England
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Well to chuck in my, not very experienced with climbing roses point of view I think the inside/outside the obelisk thing is a matter of preference. I get the easier to prune point, but aesthetically I prefer the inside. If you grow a straight-up Warm Welcome type, it would look odd on the outside as you would be left with an empty obelisk. But as far as I understand it, you should never cut the main canes of a climber down, apart from thinning if it gets overcrowded - just prune the laterals - otherwise you are starting from scratch every year, like I have had to do due with WW due to  a) bad advice and b) rotting wooden obelisk! Took a whole year each time to get it back to the top, my poor abused rose!

    Your Royal William is a bush HT though isn't it @Lizzie27? Does it really need the support of an oblelisk at all?

    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited May 2020
    Oh I agree with your there @Nollie
    ...regarding Warm Welcome... I think it's a rose made for inside planting, from what I see of it... and yes of course down to personal preference too.. or greed.. because one on the inside, means more on the outside... right ?...  no, don't do as I do, it's too complicated.....

    ...pretty Sir John Mills, and a good sturdy support structure by the looks of things AlliumPS...
    East Anglia, England
  • Has anyone either got or had experience of SUMMER SONG a David Austin English Shrub rose.  I'm wondering if the blooms stay orange as they fade or turn a more red.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @AlliumPurpleSensation
    ..oh dear, me again... sorry to butt in... but yes Summer Song... huge blooms, terracotta orange, they don't turn red but the outer petals turn pink... whether one likes that combination is in the eyes of the beholder... it's also a rather floppy rose I found, but astonishing colour, if you like that..
    East Anglia, England
  • celcius_kkwcelcius_kkw Posts: 753
    edited May 2020
    @AlliumPurpleSensation I have come across summer song when I visited David Austin’s rose garden last year. They seemed to stay in that amazing shade of deep orange - even the older blooms. Beautiful fragrance that was different from other DA roses too. I did however notice that the whole bush seemed to be covered in black spots.. I am not sure if it was incidental or whether it says something about its disease resistance.. It was on the top of my wish list before but now it’s been demoted to the second tier. 

    On the subject of black spots.. this year a few of my roses have suffered greatly from black spots.. I have had to defoliate quite a lot to the point of almost baldness.. I have stopped spraying fungicide since the buds started to appear.. the recent wind appeared to have worsened matters significantly.. I wonder if the wind has dispersed fungal spores around? My question is.. should I just live with it and resist picking the leaves off (perhaps only the most heavily infected ones) or is full defoliation necessary? I worry that if I didn’t fully defoliate ALL infected leaves it might spread to other otherwise healthy roses..

    I really can’t afford to spray now as the buds are all starting to bloom.. 😕
  • Marlorena said:
    @AlliumPurpleSensation
    ..oh dear, me again... sorry to butt in... but yes Summer Song... huge blooms, terracotta orange, they don't turn red but the outer petals turn pink... whether one likes that combination is in the eyes of the beholder... it's also a rather floppy rose I found, but astonishing colour, if you like that..

    Thankyou.
    Think it is probably what I'm after, if it doesn't work can always move it.
    Another one for my list!
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    How come you can plant roses near each other and they grow fine but have replant  disease if you replace a rose? 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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