...pinks today... 'Duchesse de Brabant'... tea scented Tea.. 'Eisvogel'... 'Eustacia Vye'... ants nest at the roots, which does considerable damage to roses.. I've had few blooms this season due to that.. not seen so much on heavy soils.. ..deliciously scented, thornless, and ultra vigorous 'Florence Ducher'... ..thornless 'Cornelia' always gives a good autumn display... 4 x 8 feet.. Aster 'Monch'... at its best..
@poppyfield64 for all potted roses, a weak general-purpose, 7-5-6 liquid feed (local brand) once a week then an extra tomato feed only when coming into/during a flush. The liquid feed does work out expensive though, so I’m going to try this granular one next year. I couldn’t get the slow-release one Edhelka mentioned, but this may be an ok substitute:
@edhelka, thanks and I’m inclined to agree, GJ needs to let rip, it seems a pointless struggle to restrict to a shrub. I don’t know why DA advertise it as such - they have two entries, one as a shrub and the other a short climber, but as there is only one breeders code for GJ it’s rather disingenuous to present it as two different roses.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie You could grow it as a big shrub (6ft?) I guess it depends on how you define shrub. It looks self-supporting. But I believe it can be a shrub in colder parts of the country or on poor soils.
@Marlorena, Florence Ducher looks wonderful. I’m tempted to try that as well as Marie Ducher. Sourire d’Orchidee is another tempting me. If I do order from them, of course it has to be three minimum to justify the postage!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Yes, I guess the boundaries are pretty blurred, @edhelka, GJ is absolutely self-supporting. I’m noticing the same blurring in general between floribunda/HT, especially the modern types. Sometimes it’s a bit of a mystery why one is in one class and not the other and vice-versa. Maybe that’s why a lot of rose sellers list them together as ‘bush’ roses which I used to confuse with ‘shrub’ roses. All a glorious medley, but it’s often hard to predict how whatever you choose will behave, regardless of climate!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
...they have some lovely roses at roseraie ducher...I'm always tempted, but like other nurseries they may sell the same rose under different names... this goes on everywhere.. for instance, I have 'Mme Letuve de Colnet' which is so similar to 'Mme Isaac Pereire' I think it's the same rose... my 'Boufarik' I got this Spring I'm now almost convinced is Rose de Rescht... by mid August it was full of what they call 'damask crud'... typical of this class of rose unfortunately with the cleaner air we have nowadays... Portland Damasks are off my menu... the ones I've grown here were, Comte de Chambord, Arthur de Sansal, Portland Rose, Baronne Prevost and Boufarik [Rose de Rescht]... all fabulous roses in early summer for the first flush, but afterwards they all breached my levels of tolerance for disease... all gone..
...for potted roses over here, I sometimes use Miracle Gro Rose and Shrub with npk 15-11-15.. which gives a balance of nitrogen and potassium... I do not use Miracle Gro for roses in the ground because I understand it destroys soil organisms, so I won't use it for that, preferring organic based fertilizers... although I think they do an organic one now... David Austins is part organic, so a reasonable choice for both pots and ground, especially if some manure and garden soil is added to the pot...
..with sterilized potting composts, like the John Innes range, we can use inorganic Miracle Gro for pots..
Marlorena. Judging my some comments on HMF there are quite a few ‘other’ roses that turn out to be RdeR. My new RdeR - fortunately the one I wanted - did have damask crud on the lower leaves, but I picked those off and it quickly grew new, clean ones.
I still used DA rose feed for in-ground roses and gave the potted roses a dose at the beginning of the season, but then switched to the inorganic for pots and noticed a big difference in increased flushes/blooming this year. Thanks for your advice there.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Marlorena What scent! I sniffed and began to doubt myself it was so long ago I researched Wildberry. I assumed I had just fallen for it based on your luscious pictures. But no I am expecting scent, will keep you posted.
That's worrying about RdeR and Arthur deS. And this on the day an Arthur bud is first showing colour. I'm fairly sure my tolerence of desease is pretty low. On the other hand I never throw out plants.
I am grateful for your feed advice. I'm fairly sure I used Miracle Gro granules on roses in the ground, will desist henceforth. I like the sound of @edhelka's recommendation. Thank you.
@Nollie I'm glad I'm not the only one not getting the differences in some rose categories. Keep an eye on the dreaded Damask Crud please, I still have time to cancel RdeR. But at that price nah I'll give it a go. I've wanted it for a while.
Lovely variety in the buds there @poppyfield64, I had a look at mine properly as a result.
I always think of vanilla ice cream on a cone from an ice cream van when I look at Elina. Just needs a Flake in it.
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'Duchesse de Brabant'... tea scented Tea..
'Eisvogel'...
'Eustacia Vye'... ants nest at the roots, which does considerable damage to roses.. I've had few blooms this season due to that.. not seen so much on heavy soils..
..deliciously scented, thornless, and ultra vigorous 'Florence Ducher'...
..thornless 'Cornelia' always gives a good autumn display... 4 x 8 feet..
Aster 'Monch'... at its best..
@edhelka, thanks and I’m inclined to agree, GJ needs to let rip, it seems a pointless struggle to restrict to a shrub. I don’t know why DA advertise it as such - they have two entries, one as a shrub and the other a short climber, but as there is only one breeders code for GJ it’s rather disingenuous to present it as two different roses.
Portland Damasks are off my menu... the ones I've grown here were, Comte de Chambord, Arthur de Sansal, Portland Rose, Baronne Prevost and Boufarik [Rose de Rescht]... all fabulous roses in early summer for the first flush, but afterwards they all breached my levels of tolerance for disease... all gone..
..with sterilized potting composts, like the John Innes range, we can use inorganic Miracle Gro for pots..