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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Marlorena it’s an understatement to say I have over-ordered! The plan is to trial a greater number so I can weed out the ones that can’t cope with my climate and hopefully be left with enough good ones.

    I really should have ordered the fabulous Francis Dubreuil, though, or ‘Barcelona’ as would be more appropriate to call it here. Still time to add it to my Beales order..
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Nollie, that is good plan. Do you have rose Scented Garden? How is it ?
    South West London
  • Hi everyone

    I've a few questions about this rose and would like some advice from you kind and knowledgeable people 😊

    The photos are of the bare root unidentified rose I posted about earlier this year when there was just one long basal stem growing (which one of you kindly advised I had to stake as it was v long and I have since cut it back), as you can now see there is an equally long stem which has sprouted from the root and there's a third much smaller stem emerging too, however no blooms, so I'm wondering what I've done wrong. Any help would be much appreciated.

    Thanks again 😊
  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Nollie, both pure poetry and Heidi Klum look beautiful. I feel that rose with shades like lady emma or lady of shallott or pale colours like Vanessa bell look lovely closeup in a vase but in garden they look lost and nothing special. Whereas solid or bold colour roses stand out and look amazing in the garden. 
    South West London
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Just reading back a bit, @zarahbruce Rosa Moyesii Geranium has fantastic big fat hips, but you do need some space for it and it’s once-flowering so may not be what you are looking for. What sort of size rose can you squeeze in there? Hopefully others can recommend some with attractive hips but an idea of maximum size would be helpful. Alternatively, most of the rose growers websites allow you to select hips as an attribute on their filters.

    @cazsophieq2019 the new basal and the new reddish growth at the top is exactly what you want to see. You should get some buds forming from that new top growth over the next couple of weeks, so you have done nothing wrong, just a bit of patience required there! Slightly concerned about your staking though, it’s very close to the rose cane and pushed right through the roots. Others may disagree, but it may have been better to push in a stake about a foot from the rose’s base, at an angle, tying in where the angle crosses the cane. That will provide some support but also allow the cane to strengthen up on it’s own, if you see what I mean. Don’t worry about the black spotted, yellowing leaves, that’s normal at this time of year but you can pick the worst ones off and bin them.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    'Empereur Charles IV.'
    'Gabriel Oak'
    'Claire Jolly', blooms and hips
    'Silas Marner'
    'Jacqueline Humery', fragrant, myrrh and multiflora mix, I can't say I like it but bees seems to love it.
    'Purple Skyliner'
    'Purple Lodge'

  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    And a short pots review. I received these from The Garden Superstore yesterday. I already had some of these and wanted to order more and I also wanted some smaller matching pots.
    The middle one is what I usually use, a deep but narrow pot, on the small side for a rose (38cm wide, 45cm high, approx. 30l volume). The terracotta one is a nice surprise, it was described as 40x40cm but these are actually inner measurements, outer measurements are 45x42cm, straight sides and very stable, the volume is 42l and it looks huge... I realize it is still slightly smaller than recommended 45x45cm but I think it is a good long-term pot for small to medium shrub roses, at least here where it doesn't get too hot. £13.50. I also like the first (left one), 45.5x36cm.
    I like these sizes because I have narrow paths around the house so it's better for me to use smaller pots and repot if needed if I still want to keep the rose after 2-3 years.

  • @Nollie, great suggestion! I have been thinking about Rosa pendulina, but I am not sure if I just like it because of the lack of thorns. There is a spot near the shed where I could put this lovely moyesii geranium. Love that it also looks diesease resistant!

    I love the term shovel prune, it sums up what I have done with the yellow roses! There was nothing wrong with them except they were just a bit dull. I will have an autumn/winter tidy and divide/move of some of the perennials and so the size isn’t really too much of an issue. 
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