Thanks @newbie77 Lots of options for this rose. I'm growing it as a pillar rose, it finally threw out a really long pliable cane this year which I'm winding around the post. Hoping next year it will make another that I can wind the opposite direction. It trains really easily like this. An obelisk would work as well. You could also have it as a lax shrub. It can be pegged as well. Just depends on the look you want?
Regarding setting hips. For most roses, it is said they need 100 days to ripen (or to get to the stage when the seeds can be harvested, they don't need to be fully red for that). I think it can be climate dependant but not too significantly.
Some roses seem to be faster, rugosas certainly are (hips on rugosas around are red already) and my 'alba maxima' has one almost red hip (from blooms in late May/early June... maybe that isn't faster, counting it now it looks like 100 days). The hips on my 'Scented Garden' (set in late June, left on for harvesting seeds) are still green and need at least 2-3 more weeks.
Last year, I deadheaded the 1st flush of my 'The Generous Gardener' and left the 2nd flush on. The hips never ripened, not even a hint of colour. I don't remember the timing but I think the 2nd flush was an autumn flush, way too late for them to have a chance.
I don't know when is the last time when you can leave the hips to set and still give them enough time to ripen before it gets too cold. I would guess mid-July. Which is still only the 1st flush for most roses here in a normal year.
Please share your experience if you have roses which set hips. I am very interested in knowing more, not just guessing.
@celcius_kkw@Nollie Rugosas are acid-loving. They are often very unhappy in alkaline soils. This is assuming they are always sold own-root (are they? even the hybrids? where is the line? ... honestly, I don't know.)
All my rugosas were grafted, @edhelka and in amended soil with lots of ericaceous compost. The one from DA was almost certainly on laxa, the others from TCL so I can’t be sure of the root stock, as I think they use some others as well. Could be they are more sensitive to my extremely hard water, high temps or just bad luck, who knows. Don’t let my experience put you off @celcius_kkw.
I have an Ebb Tide on order too, forgotten about that. Be interesting to see if it (and Love Song) does the same here. I am happy for my theory to be proved or disproved!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Nollie ...sorry, I don't know Marie Ducher... but as long as it's the correct variety... I've had 2 from Roseraie Ducher that are probably incorrectly named... interesting history, and the sort of rose that I think you should try..
..I'm delighted with Florence Ducher... it's always in flower, little disease and as a bonus it's completely thornless which took me by surprise as it's not mentioned anywhere else that I can see.. vigorous too.. showing good basals currently..
@Omori ..those are beautiful roses in the vase... the light background has captured them perfectly..
@Omori, thanks from me too regarding options for Mme. Isaac Pereire, I have it on order and was wondering what I was going to do with it, thinking it needed a fence, but my fence space is limited.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Marlorena thank you for the reassurance. I will see how they look in June and whether any colour appears. It's looking very spindly at the moment with very few leaves unlike C. Taiga which is looking gorgeous with lots of flowers and foliage. I really like your Jardin des Tuileries. Such pretty blooms. Does it smell as good as it looks?
@edhelka this is my first season with Rugosa Hansa and Ghislaine de Feligonde. They are both flowering at the moment and I plan not to deadhead to see if hips develop. I had read that they don't always produce hips in their first season but thought I would give it a try.
@Omori that really is a stunning display of roses. You're vase is really pretty too.
Had a trip to our local rose nursery and picked up Aloha, Jacques Cartier and the Cornish girl in me couldn't pass by Proper Job. Almost came home with Pure Poetry and Red Parfum de Provence but 3 was my limit today. I even got a discount as I buy so many from them
Eustacia Vye
Ghislaine de Feligonde
And Claire Marshall is blooming really well for her 2nd flush even though it was long awaited.
@Omori Stunning bouquet! I love the bright lighting in the background. Very refreshing on the eyes!
@edhelka I am under the impression roses in general prefer acidic soil.. do rugosas prefer even more acidic conditions than modern ones?
@n@Nollie I will definitely give them a go this year.. I need to start to stockpile on composts given I’ll be planting spring bulbs as well as new roses this autumn.. and some scented pelargoniums on the side. I’m so excited! 😆
That’s encouraging about Florence Ducher, thanks @Marlorena. They have a good selection of roses for hot climates. I’m pleased to see I have already three of their recommendations on order, but you already recommended those ones for me and I trust your judgement over any website claims. I see they are selling Sombreuil as as the early tea by Roberts, but it looks very much like the later ‘Colonial White’. I would hope they would know Marie Ducher as it’s one of their own roses, but no guarantee of that! Worth a punt, I think.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@poppyfield64 I'm glad to see you have a bloom to look forward to on Proper Job, the colour and scent on mine are lovely. I'll follow your lead and not deadhead GdeF too, hips would be lovely.
Pleased to say my Jula Child and Ebb Tide are not currently reinforcing any theories on sudden onset BS. I
must say I'm anxiously eyeing Boscobel too but it is in full bloom,
healthy and has 2 Beauties on guard. (spider pic alert)While looking at the lavender rose Love Song I noticed both it and
Blanc Double de Coubert still available potted from C&K Jones, @newbie77 and @celsius_kkw. I managed to resist but it was hard. If LS were fragrant I think both would have been ordered. I can't bring myself to pay delivery charges only for 1 rose so tend to buy in 2s or 3s.
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I have an Ebb Tide on order too, forgotten about that. Be interesting to see if it (and Love Song) does the same here. I am happy for my theory to be proved or disproved!
...sorry, I don't know Marie Ducher... but as long as it's the correct variety... I've had 2 from Roseraie Ducher that are probably incorrectly named... interesting history, and the sort of rose that I think you should try..
..I'm delighted with Florence Ducher... it's always in flower, little disease and as a bonus it's completely thornless which took me by surprise as it's not mentioned anywhere else that I can see.. vigorous too.. showing good basals currently..
@Omori
..those are beautiful roses in the vase... the light background has captured them perfectly..
@edhelka this is my first season with Rugosa Hansa and Ghislaine de Feligonde. They are both flowering at the moment and I plan not to deadhead to see if hips develop. I had read that they don't always produce hips in their first season but thought I would give it a try.
@Omori that really is a stunning display of roses. You're vase is really pretty too.
Had a trip to our local rose nursery and picked up Aloha, Jacques Cartier and the Cornish girl in me couldn't pass by Proper Job. Almost came home with Pure Poetry and Red Parfum de Provence but 3 was my limit today. I even got a discount as I buy so many from them
Eustacia Vye
Ghislaine de Feligonde
And Claire Marshall is blooming really well for her 2nd flush even though it was long awaited.