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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • newbie77newbie77 Posts: 1,838
    @Mr. Vine Eye, after getting so many roses I am realizing our sense of smell can be so different. I can no longer go by what anyone says about how something smells. It just smells differently to me. I dont like smell of some of the roses which people say smell so nice. I have been thinking what does Strawberry hill smells like, it is different, not like a very pleasant flower smell but it felt familiar and then yesterday it clicked. It smells just like my kid's new plastic doll  :D 
    South West London
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    The pruning heights and techniques was the part I found most interesting too @newbie77. I have also been eying up older canes to cut out this winter - I kind of knew I should be doing this, but the way he explained it’s importance to keep the plants juvenile rather than old and tired made it more meaningful, so now I’m determined to actually do it!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • poppyfield64poppyfield64 Posts: 332
    edited August 2020
    That was a really useful article, thanks @Nollie.  Did I read right that she recommends spraying the foliage with water to help reduce disease and wash the spores off.  I always thought you shouldn't get them wet and to water at the base of the rose.

    @omori I'm loving your shades of roses, they are right up my alley.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    That was a really useful article, thanks @Nollie.  Did I read right that she recommends spraying the foliage with water to help reduce disease and wash the spores off.  I always thought you shouldn't get them wet and to water at the base of the rose.
    He.
    It's OK if the leaves have time to completely dry before the night. BS spores need high relative humidity which usually occurs overnight.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @rock_hen Trevor White, Style Roses, C&K Jones.
    Regarding standards, I agree with Mr. Vine Eye. They need good staking or a sheltered spot. Some disease-prone roses can actually do better like that, thanks to more airflow. Not all roses make good standards but some roses are better as standards than as shrubs (typically smaller roses with nodding blooms or arching canes like Harlow Carr).
    And one really big benefit - it allows growing some really big ramblers as weeping standards. Ground covering roses also make good weeping trees.
  • rock_henrock_hen Posts: 106
    thanks for your comments. Yes standards are a bit pricey aren't they?? been looking at David Austin ones :D@edhelka one of the ones I have been looking at is Lancashire which I believe is a ground cover rose so that might be ok. I'm not sure if the price justifies getting one though :/
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Yes, they are expensive. I have Super Excelsa from Beales and it was £32 + £24 postage (their postage is higher for standards). Crazy. On the other hand, Tuincentrum Lottum have standards for €14-18 and the shipping for them is the same as for shrubs. I have Marie Pavie standard on order from them.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Yes I think timing is critical to hosing off rose BS spores @poppyfield64, crack of dawn, preferably! Also helps to dislodge aphids.Unfortunately my water is so ridiculously hard it instantly leaves unsightly calcium deposits on the foliage, so my experiment doing that last year lasted only a short time!

    I would love a standard weeping rose, but sadly don’t have a good, sheltered spot for one. 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • rock_henrock_hen Posts: 106
    @edhelka I shouldn't have looked at Tuincentrum Lottum, now I have a long wishlist... :D
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