@Bright star ...not at all bonkers... I grew it that way once, albeit on a 6 foot wall.. place it somewhere so you can train it equally right and left, horizontally... I got a 20 foot spread within the first 12 months, but not one single bloom until the following year.. but it was north facing.. do give it a try..
p.s. oh gosh sorry, I didn't mean to repeat what's already been said... posts don't always show up until some time afterwards I find.. glad we all agree ..lol.
@cats_and_dogs Welcome! Lovely roses and it's always a pleasure to see more people to chat with about roses.
@Nollie The floribunda parent is probably 'Blue for you' and I think it's visible in it. From references on HMF:
Royal National Rose Society, The rose
Magazine (2009) Page(s) 15. Vol 103. part 1. Includes photo(s).
Bred by Peter James and introduced by Chris Warner. Chris rates this as an outstanding novelty. He says, 'I started work with the Persica
hybrids in the early eighties when I purchased 'Tigris'. My hybrids,
crossed with 'Baby Love', were a step forward in disease resistance on
the earlier Harkness hybrids and one, 'Chewtiggle', won an award at St
Albans. But they needed old wood to repeat and though 'Tiggle' did repeat it stopped flowering in September. 'Tiggle' proved a dead end. I
fortunately had a small group to help me with my project on the understanding that anything of worth came to me first. Ronnie Rawlins
from Fixby, Huddersfield joined later and received 'Tingle' rather than
'Tiggle'. Fate decreed that 'Tingle' produced two usable hybrids and from this real progress is now being made'.
'Eyes for You' has 4"
flowers in trusses in a mauvy-lilac shade with a very large purple blotch at the centre of the flower. The impact of the flower colouring is very dramatic. The plant is short, bushy and free flowering. There is also an outstanding fragrance inherited from 'Blue for You'. Disease resistance is very good.
To cross-reference the code names, 'Chewtiggle' is 'Afghan Girl' and 'Chewtingle' is 'Tiger Eyes'.
So far, I like it. The fragrance changes, sometimes it's mild, sometimes medium, sweet and spicy. The growth so far has been quite dense and I removed some diseased lower leaves. I have it on a slope and can't water it well without getting water on the leaves. At the moment it's healthy.
Is it beneficial to add a liquid feed when watering. All the recommended good stuff has already been applied, fertiliser, manure mulch. I give 'em a good drenching every week, but was wondering if adding a bit extra once a week would prove beneficial.
That is something I've been pondering but I would think it would cause too much soft new growth which would just attract aphids. I give two annual feeds, and seaweed extract every couple of weeks, personally, but I would be interested to hear what others think.
Thank you all for such a warm welcome, so glad to have found this forum! Talking about roses takes me to a happy place
@Marlorena- that's interesting to hear that your Lady of Shalott has fragrance, I did another smell test on mine and I still find it completely fragrance-less. It could be my nose though !
@Bright star- I have Mme. Alfred Carrière growing in a shady spot into a tree. It's in year 2 now and has shot out some really long stems, but will probably need a few more years to see it in it's full glory. Looks like it will need a lot of support as the stems seem to go all over the place. I hope it rewards me with lots of flowers this year!
On the subject of feeding, I killed a couple of lovely mature roses by overfeeding them. It's a shame as they were well established roses that came with the house when we moved, one was a lovely climber, but I must have scorched their roots by going over the top with rose fertilizer pellets. Lesson learned, I have been very economical with rose fertilizer ever since and my roses look ok!
On the question of aphids @Omori, my rambler Open Arms had it's higher buds completely smothered in aphids a week or two back, which I never got round to tackling. Yet now, the buds have opened and are seemingly undamaged and unaffected by the experience, and look no less healthy than the buds I spent time dealing with (squashing them, it's something I find worryingly pleasant).
I’m happy to spent the time training it, I could really creative like they do at Sissinghurst gardens! 😂. I’ve been itching to have a go, just need the right rose.
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...not at all bonkers... I grew it that way once, albeit on a 6 foot wall.. place it somewhere so you can train it equally right and left, horizontally... I got a 20 foot spread within the first 12 months, but not one single bloom until the following year.. but it was north facing.. do give it a try..
p.s. oh gosh sorry, I didn't mean to repeat what's already been said... posts don't always show up until some time afterwards I find.. glad we all agree ..lol.
'Eyes for You' has 4" flowers in trusses in a mauvy-lilac shade with a very large purple blotch at the centre of the flower. The impact of the flower colouring is very dramatic. The plant is short, bushy and free flowering. There is also an outstanding fragrance inherited from 'Blue for You'. Disease resistance is very good.
To cross-reference the code names, 'Chewtiggle' is 'Afghan Girl' and 'Chewtingle' is 'Tiger Eyes'.
So far, I like it. The fragrance changes, sometimes it's mild, sometimes medium, sweet and spicy. The growth so far has been quite dense and I removed some diseased lower leaves. I have it on a slope and can't water it well without getting water on the leaves. At the moment it's healthy.
@Marlorena- that's interesting to hear that your Lady of Shalott has fragrance, I did another smell test on mine and I still find it completely fragrance-less. It could be my nose though
@Bright star- I have Mme. Alfred Carrière growing in a shady spot into a tree. It's in year 2 now and has shot out some really long stems, but will probably need a few more years to see it in it's full glory. Looks like it will need a lot of support as the stems seem to go all over the place. I hope it rewards me with lots of flowers this year!
On the subject of feeding, I killed a couple of lovely mature roses by overfeeding them. It's a shame as they were well established roses that came with the house when we moved, one was a lovely climber, but I must have scorched their roots by going over the top with rose fertilizer pellets. Lesson learned, I have been very economical with rose fertilizer ever since and my roses look ok!