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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • PianoplayerPianoplayer Posts: 624
    @Marlorena @Omori @edhelka Thanks! Impatient and neurotic is a common state for me  :) I will try and be patient and remember sleep/creep/leap. Hopefully not all of the buds will have been nipped by the change in the weather, and will eventually open. Will post a photo if they do.

    Everyone's gardens look fantastic, thanks for the inspiration.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Beautiful pink and purple combination, @cats_and_dogs. Some floribundas have more upright heads too. If I could have a ‘Julia Child’ in every colour I would.
    @Katsa, I look forward to seeing Gospel and Pure Poetry in bloom - Gospel is winning on paper at the moment.
    @edhelka Empereur is so tempting! I do need to add another to my Beales list to make postage worthwhile - always a good justification.
    @Pianoplayer, welcome to the rose thread. I have both Susan Williams-Ellis, still compact but finally blooming better in year 3 and Climbing Iceberg, year 2, still pretty small - yes it will need training and tying in to a fence/trellis with the canes encouraged to near horizontal to encourage more laterals (flowering side shoots) to grow from the main canes. Nothing to worry about, sounds as if you are doing everything right, bit it tskes a while to curb your impatience, I’m still trying!

    I’m off out for the day but will post my list later and peruse all yours!
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    @edhelka Noted to put Sandringham in the sun, thank you. Actually I haven't got a spot this year for it in the ground. That awaits some major changes to the garden next year . So into a container for the time being. Can you tell me something of the growth habit please? I see PB says it could be a climber, will I need a structure or canes to contain it the first year? Any other advice? PB says if potting put in the correct soil based compost, which is what please?

    The Alexandre Girault in my long list is for my fantasy of putting a rose into a Bramley tree which is currently a fully branched 6-7m high. Any opinions on this from anybody please. I would prefer a coloured rose with some repeat flowering ideally, are there better contenders? How actually do you do this? Having helped the canes up the trunk how high do you need to keep guiding until they do the clambering themselves?
  • PianoplayerPianoplayer Posts: 624
    @Nollie Thank you for your kind encouragement, very helpful to know what to expect.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    edited June 2020
    @Mr. Vine Eye 
    ...I wish I could get up this early every day..
    ..just to answer your question ...
    I expect what you are seeing are photos of Bathsheba from warm climate gardens, especially in places like California.. and you are not the first person to ask me this question... what happens in warm climates is that strong deep colours can get washed out in strong sun, deep apricots turn pink, orange can turn pink, strong yellows can turn creamy white.. reds can turn pink...  you will rarely see a deep almost black Munstead Wood in a warm climate, as you would see it here..

    ... that is why I think it's important when researching roses, or trying to i.d. one, especially on places like Help Me Find, Instagram etc.  is to avoid those photos from warm climate gardeners like southern U.S. Australia and southern Med, and concentrate only on those that are more relatable, such as western, northern and eastern Europe,  and in N. America places like the coastal Pacific North West, and Eastern U.S.. as they will get similar results to us..  these days I only look at warm climate roses  out of mere curiosity, as it's not comparable to where I garden... the same is true vice versa of course..

    ..oh gosh, that sounds terrible.. I hope Nollie doesn't think I'm including his garden in that,  I'm referring mainly to those areas with intense prolonged dry heat who get no rain in summer... the sort of places we like to holiday in..

    East Anglia, England
  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    With this Sleep, creep, leap sequence, does this start only when you put a rose into a permanent position or is it age related? If I put a young rose in a container for a year or two does the sequence restart when I finally plant it out? Please
  • @Marlorena good morning to lovely rose gurus. Could you help me out and name this rose. Valerie 
  • Thank you very much @Marlorena @edhelka and @Nollie for your kind words regarding my Pink Perpetue and clematis combo - I'm glad you like it :) !

    I very nearly got rid of the Pink Perpetue when we bought this house 6 years ago as it was in a bad way - lots of old dead wood, blackspot and only a couple of flowers high up. But a good pruning, mulching and fertilising regime has bought it back to life and I love the rose now, it shows the results that can be achieved by showing roses some TLC! I wish I had taken a before picture to show the contrast. 
  • OmoriOmori Posts: 1,674
    That's a good question @Tack. The first year they are generally getting established, putting in a root system so you don't see that much action above the surface. If your roses are planted in decent sized containers where they can develop a good root system without being too restricted, then you won't see much difference. I had roses in containers for their first year due to renting at that time, and planted them in the ground when we bought our first house (this house). They are definitely more advanced than new roses I planted at the same time.
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