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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    edited August 2020
    Royal Jubilee is probably too large for me unfortunately, I am currently determined only to have containerable roses. Something in the ground would mean adding flower beds which I promised my husband we had stopped doing. Or I have to ask him to remove really old large, but rather lovely. shrubs...
    @edhelka , I believed breeders' claims about disease resistance too. My first roses were chosen first with the fragrance filter, then the health one. I note CD is no longer touted as healthy by DA since they revamed their website..

  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    @Tack I think it likes your drier climate much more. Interesting, how big difference a relatively small difference in climate can do. But it isn't only climate, sometimes even a different position in a garden (morning sun vs evening sun etc.) can change a lot. And maturity can help - my Scepter'd Isle blooms absolutely refused to open properly last year but they are fuller and better opening this year.
  • peteSpeteS Posts: 966
    I was wondering, can black spot be passed on from one rose to another. I've got a newly planted HT, riddled with it growing next to Gertrude Jekyll, which has never had any problems with it in the past, but now has it...do you think the HT could be to blame.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ^Yes, absolutely... 
    East Anglia, England
  • Thanks @Marlorena.  I've only had Paul's Scarlet a couple of months and these are the first blooms I've had.  I know DA has one by the same name but this one was from B&Q so probably not the same one.

    @Omori thanks......I think I'll give it a go next season.  I could do with more height in places.

    @Tack this is the first one I bought.  My second one is just finishing it's first with me and they weren't bought that far apart.

    On another note, I have a problem area in the garden that is very shaded.  In the photos there are two leylandii trunks which we had cut down 6 years ago.  The space between is 14".  Am I being totally unrealistic to think I might be able to grow a short climbing rose there?  The trellis is there at the moment purely for somewhere to put it and the slug destroyed hosta will be coming out along with the fern which I may replant somewhere else. It gets some dappled sun at around 3.30pm and a bit more higher up the fence.


  • TackTack Posts: 1,367
    edited August 2020
    @poppyfield64 I thought I had a rose for you, Blush Noisette. Then I thought I'd better check. Peter Beale has it as suitable for sun, partial shade and shade but DA says full sun! So I'd better leave it to the experts here. Mine is going in partial shade.

    As to the stumps; being 6 yrs old can you bash them out using axe/maul , wedge and club hammer, crowbar, spade, loppers..whatever you've got. Or you can hire a stump grinder. I feel expert having watched my husband remove a lot during lockdown.
  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    I was wondering the same Poppyfield, so will be interested in any answers. I've got a similar space in front of a wall between two cherry trees, which are still alive however.
    Instinct tells me it's a definitely no! 
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
  • thanks @Tack that's the trouble with sites having conflicting information.  You're never quite sure which is right.  The stump on the right is slowly being pecked away by my chicken but that could be a long wait  :D I could mention it to my husband but he said earlier that he has a nervous breakdown every time I say "I've been thinking" lol

    @Lizzie27 instinct is telling me no too and I might just be clutching at straws but you never know!!
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ..this would not faze me at all, planting between two dead conifer stumps, as per @poppyfield64 's situation..
    ..but bear in mind, I've grown rambling roses up Eucalyptus trees, Hawthorns, Willows, climbing roses through Magnolias, and every which way possible... so planting something between those stumps would seem a doddle in my crazy rose world..

    ... a few easy steps you need to do first..
    after removing that hosta and fern, you need to edge the grass back a bit, about a foot or so... I would turn the remains over, chop lightly, and place in any planting hole.. roses love chopped turves at the roots..
    ..turn over the soil, including between the stumps... preferably if you are able, down to at least 18 inches or so, removing any old tree roots and might still be there.. once you are satisfied the planting hole is in reasonable condition, with loose friable soil... you're ready...

    ...as you have a white hydrangea on the right... a plant on the left which I can't see clearly what that is, and your fence colour is Terracotta?  I probably would not plant a pink rose there... maybe a nice bright yellow... ? or dark red?.. 

    ..for @Lizzie27 's situation, I couldn't advise without seeing a picture of what you're dealing with, re those Cherry trees...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I should add a cautionary note... if you notice any sign of honey fungus in the soil, then obviously this would not be a good idea...  honey fungus can kill a plant overnight... it looks like threads or bootlaces running through the soil, not to be confused with roots of other plants or old conifer roots...  I've had it in a garden before but it only killed one of my roses, and a Lonicera.. 
    It is sometimes present where old tree stumps exist..  the fact you have healthy plants nearby suggests to me it's not an issue there.. 
    East Anglia, England
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