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..the new ROSE season 2020...

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  • @celcius_kkw I picked up some tomato rite and miracle gro liquid feed in Tesco today - saved me making a non-essential trip elsewhere! Didn’t know that about ratios @Marlorena so I shall have a read of the bottle :-)
  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    edhelka said:
    @Mr. Vine Eye It all looks lovely. I like the Rhapsody/Ghislaine corner. Are those foxgloves under them? Is it going to be all purple and apricot combo?
    Your Scarborough Fair situation looks almost like my Eyes for you but I would swear the aphids are there in double layers. I don't think I've seen so many of them on one plant... hosed it off yesterday, today they're all there back again. Some roses are still aphid free but I guess it's just a matter of time, ants are working. Soon, it will be aphid apocalypse here.
    And it looks like we have the same hebe. Do you know the variety (I don't have the label and never looked into it)?

    Yep foxgloves - excelsior but they were ‘mixed’ seeds so wont know the colour until they flower! Ghislaine was more pink than apricot last year but I had got her hoping for apricot, colour can vary though apparently.

    Ive not really got colour themes it’s all a bit higgledy piggledy. Although the rough idea was Yellow Malvern Hills running across the wall leading into “apricot” Ghislaine. In front of the wall is Amber Queen yellowy peach, then Lady Emma Orange, then Gabriel Oak nearer to Ghislaine.

    The hebe is ‘magic summer’ I think. There’s another hebe next to it, a variegated one that’s green with cream (the cream turning to a yellowy green) and I hate it. I think it’s ‘Liz’ but for some reason my wife loves it. I’ll have to move it though, it’s getting too big for the spot and I can’t see any lower growth to cut back to!
    East Yorkshire
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    Thanks Adrian for the advice... I'm not going out at the moment but I'll see if I can get something from my next Morrison's shop.. they usually have a small gardening section..

    East Anglia, England
  • @Marlorena I had a look back at your rose garden notes thread from last year cause I remembered you had wild rover and was considering getting it. It looks very good for you but would you recommend it?

    Also seen you was considering harkness new rose last year chawton cottage which looks lovely. Did you end up getting that rose? I’m also thinking of buying that one as well!
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    @Marlorena, that’s very interesting regarding the NPK 3-1-2 for potted roses, I have a couple in large pots and have been using the David Austin 9.5-7.5-10 granular rose food on everything, potted or in the ground. Does it matter much? Why the different needs?

    I was actually going to ask you what you did, if anything, about fertilising your bare root roses you pot up for later transplant into the ground. I ask because I didn’t fertilise when potting up my bare roots, but some are now really taking off and I’m wondering if I need to give them anything. Stormy Weather, Soul, Bonica and Astonomia are already vigorous and 80cm tall and the last two have lots of buds. Diamond Eyes is already in flower, but others, such as Rose de Molinard and Burgundy Ice are now falling significantly behind the others, having started off well. Any advice? 
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • VoyagerxpVoyagerxp Posts: 651
    When is the best time to start using rose feed?
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    ...now is a good time if not already done... up to mid April...

    @Daniel Rutherford   Chawton Cottage is doing well, but it's still in a pot and I shall plant it out later this month.. I notice it has a bud on it.. and the foliage is dark and glossy.. very vigorous too... but obviously too early for me to comment or recommend it..
    ...Wild Rover grows over my arch, and is about 8 foot tall.. virtually thornless and I love this rose but it does have a drawback if you don't spray roses... it will black spot and so I'm reluctant to recommend to anybody who doesn't spray..  I just pick the leaves off, and if it defoliates in August, which it has done, I just water it and it soon grows back fresh lovely large foliage... it also sends up several vigorous shoots from the base each year..
    ...I can't be without it, but it's perhaps not for everyone Daniel..

    East Anglia, England
  • thanks @Marlorena I will definitely have a think about both of them. Wild rover did seem to look very appealing in your photos with the lovely colour it has! I mean I am trying to look more for disease resistance with roses now but I don’t mind the odd exception!
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @Nollie   I know it's confusing, but just to be clear 3-1-2 is the ratio not the NPK.. so it means 3 parts Nitrogen, 1 part Phosphate 2 parts Potassium... so an NPK of 24-8-16.. or 9-3-6.. all conform to that ratio.. I try to get one as near as possible to this... and also for potted roses it's best to use inorganic fertilizers... DA is great for the soil, it's organic based, needs micro organisms to break it down... which are lacking from sterilised potting composts... so not a great choice for potted roses where we need a quick release fertz. so either fast acting granular or liquid feeds are the way to go... some tomato fertz is ok in between too... 


    I have a few roses that were bare rooted and in temporary pots.. some are not doing as well as I have no fertilizer for them at the moment... I'm waiting for the liquid feed.. they are looking a bit starved...
    Others are doing well as they were given better potting soil to start with.. so those of yours that are ''taking off'' I would start a liquid feed for every 2 weeks or so, and those a little behind, obviously need a boost right now...  fast acting liquid feeding is the way to go this time of year, especially as you are ahead of us here...
    East Anglia, England
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    I just took this photo of some charming dwarf Narcissi 'Segovia'...  this takes over after my 'February Gold's' as they've just finished flowering..  when those tulips are out and finished I shall remove them and plant a Gabriel Oak rose in that spot...  the big grey leaves are Allium stipitatum 'Mount Everest' which flower later..



    East Anglia, England
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