@Florafan .. you're very welcome to the Roses thread and thanks for your questions... what we really need to see is a photo of your area in question because only you can see what you've got to work with, and we cannot, so it would be good if you could supply us with a picture.. ...it would also be useful to indicate how much you are prepared to spend on roses... as you may need quite a few it will work out expensive from some vendors, but then you may want to get cheaper ones from say Aldi, B and Q or some other outlet... so you need to tell us this really, otherwise we might recommend to you roses at a price you wouldn't be prepared to pay... they can be anything from £3 to £25 each, depends where you go... so where do you intend to buy them from? ...and finally, and please don't think I'm patronising or anything, but how experienced are you at planting? could you manage that number of roses? being new to it... the bare root season is coming to an end shortly, and they are easiest to plant...
..thanks so much...
oh, and the other thing we need to know.. these old plants you are removing, are there any pyracantha, apple or old roses amongst them at all? what shrubs are they?..
Thank you @Marlorena for your reply. Photos of the area attached. As you can see the area is still to be cleared (I cut back some shrubs last weekend and hope to replant the spring bulbs). The shrubs that were there are old lavender, cistus, hibiscus and hydrangeas, and I found a tiny little Acer squeezed up against the wall! There are also some perennials in there which I will salvage and move to the back garden. I am a pretty experienced gardener, I have an 80ft x 30ft rear garden and spend most weekends out there, however, It have focussed on shrubs, pots and perennials in the past. I have a hubby that can assist with the digging!! We moved here 2 years ago and I have waited to see what exactly is in the garden before embarking on changes. This little area is visible from my home office, so I thought I would like to plant it "prettty". I lost my lovely mum a few months ago and she loved roses, so I would like to have a spot that makes me think of her.
As for plant cost - on this occasion I may treat myself and purchase what I love rather than giving too much consideration to the cost - so recommend away! There are a number of good rose vendors here in Norfolk, which may not have much to see right now, but in a couple of months I can get looking.
Thank you @Marlorena for your reply. Photos of the area attached. As you can see the area is still to be cleared (I cut back some shrubs last weekend and hope to replant the spring bulbs). The shrubs that were there are old lavender, cistus, hibiscus and hydrangeas, and I found a tiny little Acer squeezed up against the wall! There are also some perennials in there which I will salvage and move to the back garden. I am a pretty experienced gardener, I have an 80ft x 30ft rear garden and spend most weekends out there, however, It have focussed on shrubs, pots and perennials in the past. I have a hubby that can assist with the digging!! We moved here 2 years ago and I have waited to see what exactly is in the garden before embarking on changes. This little area is visible from my home office, so I thought I would like to plant it "prettty". I lost my lovely mum a few months ago and she loved roses, so I would like to have a spot that makes me think of her.
As for plant cost - on this occasion I may treat myself and purchase what I love rather than giving too much consideration to the cost - so recommend away! There are a number of good rose vendors here in Norfolk, which may not have much to see right now, but in a couple of months I can get looking.
My golden celebration have to wait though. His planting hole seems to be source of some river. I have made futile effort to throwing away that water with yogurt pot.
Gosh @newbie77,what a problem, it looks so water logged. I would hold off on planting any more until warmer/dryer weather arrives and your soil dries out. Your rose won't hurt in a pot for a couple of months.
@Florafan ...thanks for the pictures... that's a nice little corner there.. and the old shrubs won't be a problem, and I know you will improve the soil before replanting.. ...it's not a huge area, I would be inclined to limit your selections to 9 roses, planting 3 varieties in groups of 3 each.. ...I would put the taller at the back in the corner, planted in a triangular group of 3 about 2 foot apart each.. ..the other 2 varieties in groups of 3, I would plant in the front centred 18 inches apart.. you can always infill with other plants if space allows but this way means they grow into each other to form what will look like one larger shrub..
...as an example, if I wanted let's say David Austin Roses, I would plant 3 x Eustacia Vye at the back ..[H and W 4' x 3' each rose according to descriptions] ...3 x Lady Emma Hamilton at the front [3 x 3], along with 3 x Munstead Wood [3 x 3]...
...this combination gives you the colours, scent and reasonable disease resistance that you were wanting... I should tell you though that with roses, the terms ''strongly fragrant''.. and ''disease resistant'' do not always go hand in hand, but those are pretty good... there are many others, and if you want other combinations I could give examples... but it's personal choice and you may have very different tastes...
...another I could go with would be 3 x Double Delight... 3 x Chandos Beauty and 3 x Twilight Zone...
Hope you see what I mean.. keep us posted and always choose roses that are close to your heart... there are lots of alternatives and variations to those given...
@Lizzie27, Yes, that rose cant be planted now. Will have to wait for it. Garden slopes upwards and remaining border although very muddy, it isnt too waterlogged so i am continuing there. I want to plant my roses before school and nusery gets closed or that dreaded virus infects me!!!
I recommend 'Rachel'... if you like a modern HT rose... at least, it's one always recommended to me... The same rose in a different shade is 'Perfect Harmony' but it's not amongst the discounted...
'Louise Clements' and 'St. Ethelburga' would also interest me at those prices...
@Florafan ...thanks for the pictures... that's a nice little corner there.. and the old shrubs won't be a problem, and I know you will improve the soil before replanting.. ...it's not a huge area, I would be inclined to limit your selections to 9 roses, planting 3 varieties in groups of 3 each.. ...I would put the taller at the back in the corner, planted in a triangular group of 3 about 2 foot apart each.. ..the other 2 varieties in groups of 3, I would plant in the front centred 18 inches apart.. you can always infill with other plants if space allows but this way means they grow into each other to form what will look like one larger shrub..
...as an example, if I wanted let's say David Austin Roses, I would plant 3 x Eustacia Vye at the back ..[H and W 4' x 3' each rose according to descriptions] ...3 x Lady Emma Hamilton at the front [3 x 3], along with 3 x Munstead Wood [3 x 3]...
...this combination gives you the colours, scent and reasonable disease resistance that you were wanting... I should tell you though that with roses, the terms ''strongly fragrant''.. and ''disease resistant'' do not always go hand in hand, but those are pretty good... there are many others, and if you want other combinations I could give examples... but it's personal choice and you may have very different tastes...
...another I could go with would be 3 x Double Delight... 3 x Chandos Beauty and 3 x Twilight Zone...
Hope you see what I mean.. keep us posted and always choose roses that are close to your heart... there are lots of alternatives and variations to those given...
Thank you, that is all very helpful - I can see your layout idea working - I was thinking I may need 15/16 plants, obviously I did not account for spread, so if its only 9 I can definitely splash out on David Austin roses! Although your other recommendations are equally as beautiful. I would probably under plant with spring bulbs and something whispy that comes up between the roses in the summer months to add contrast. I like Nepeta so may try that. Hopefully the weather will permit more shrub removal this weekend and I can begin to prepare the soil for planting up in a couple of months. I will keep you posted.
Posts
As for plant cost - on this occasion I may treat myself and purchase what I love rather than giving too much consideration to the cost - so recommend away! There are a number of good rose vendors here in Norfolk, which may not have much to see right now, but in a couple of months I can get looking.
...thanks for the pictures... that's a nice little corner there.. and the old shrubs won't be a problem, and I know you will improve the soil before replanting..
...it's not a huge area, I would be inclined to limit your selections to 9 roses, planting 3 varieties in groups of 3 each..
...I would put the taller at the back in the corner, planted in a triangular group of 3 about 2 foot apart each..
..the other 2 varieties in groups of 3, I would plant in the front centred 18 inches apart.. you can always infill with other plants if space allows but this way means they grow into each other to form what will look like one larger shrub..
...as an example, if I wanted let's say David Austin Roses, I would plant 3 x Eustacia Vye at the back ..[H and W 4' x 3' each rose according to descriptions]
...3 x Lady Emma Hamilton at the front [3 x 3], along with 3 x Munstead Wood [3 x 3]...
...this combination gives you the colours, scent and reasonable disease resistance that you were wanting... I should tell you though that with roses, the terms ''strongly fragrant''.. and ''disease resistant'' do not always go hand in hand, but those are pretty good... there are many others, and if you want other combinations I could give examples... but it's personal choice and you may have very different tastes...
...another I could go with would be 3 x Double Delight... 3 x Chandos Beauty and 3 x Twilight Zone...
Hope you see what I mean.. keep us posted and always choose roses that are close to your heart... there are lots of alternatives and variations to those given...
Yes, that rose cant be planted now. Will have to wait for it. Garden slopes upwards and remaining border although very muddy, it isnt too waterlogged so i am continuing there.
I want to plant my roses before school and nusery gets closed or that dreaded virus infects me!!!
https://www.classicroses.co.uk/special-offers/40-off-selected-bare-root-roses-march20.html?p=1
I recommend 'Rachel'... if you like a modern HT rose... at least, it's one always recommended to me...
The same rose in a different shade is 'Perfect Harmony' but it's not amongst the discounted...
'Louise Clements' and 'St. Ethelburga' would also interest me at those prices...