Gosh @newbie77,what a problem, it looks so water logged. I would hold off on planting any more until warmer/dryer weather arrives and your soil dries out. Your rose won't hurt in a pot for a couple of months.
Agreed, don’t plant when the ground is either frozen or waterlogged.
@Fire - odd - but if you first search by type, like Old Rose and then filter for red lots more show up. So it’s just searching the entire catalogue by colour that doesn’t work.
Well I'm back with another stupid question about roses.
I planted a bare-root rose last night, but being a bit of a twit I somehow managed to dig the hole in the wrong spot (note to self: don't try and dig big holes when you're tired and distracted!).
Anyway, I can't do anything about it until tomorrow morning at the earliest. Would I be right in assuming that it's unlikely to have actually done anything by then and I should be able to just dig it up again and move it quickly?
Hello all, I'm glad to see this thread back, it's a pleasure to read such an informative thread with posts from cheerful and helpful people, so thanks all for posting and sharing your photos. Welcome to the new posters too🙂
I like your garden transformation @edhelka and was interested in what you had to say about the apricot and yellow DA's. I'm new to DA's and have bought The Lark and Poet's Wife this winter so shall see how they get on.
Thank you for the heads up about the sales, I didn't have any budget for plants this month but have reassessed my outgoings (😉) and ordered the following: Flanders was on my to-order list for later this year, so not an impulse buy really. Thought it would look nice as a splash of red in my front garden which has a fair bit of yellow and orange. Scentimental I've considered before as I've been thinking about a proper bi-colour for a while but couldn't find a suitable space in the garden. I'm going to try it in a permanent pot, but both these will be in temp pots for this year due to some on-going building work.
@Victoria Sponge This is complicated but I try to explain more. 1st disclaimer - as you know, I am in an area with high blackspot pressure. Quite often something with good reviews from dryer areas blackspots here. And I don't spray. So I care about the disease resistance a lot. 2nd disclaimer - I don't trust DA's disease resistance. It's not a priority in their breeding program.
3rd disclaimer - I said I don't trust their apricot and yellow roses, which doesn't mean I think they are all bad but rather the lack of hearing consistently good things about them.
I only have two yellow of apricot roses and both are partially a reason for this lack of trust. The 1st is Charles Darwin which I bought because it is recommended as disease-resistant on their website. It is not. It blackspots a lot here. It was its 1st year and it kept maybe two thirds of its leaves (with spots) so I am willing to give it a chance to get better.
The 2nd rose is without an ID but I am almost sure it is The Lady Gardener (we tried to ID it in the last year thread, with some possibility of it being Evelyn). That one is a complete blackspot nightmare. Helpmefind describes this rose as susceptible to blackspot while The Right Roses rate it 9/10 and excellent disease resistance - this differences just don't make sense to me and are one of the reasons why I am sceptical.
The rest is assumptions (and possibly amateurish ones). We don't know much about DA roses parentage, but we know they use their roses in their breeding. Some older yellow DAs have a bad reputation for blackspot and they were used in their breeding (from what we know) - roses like Charles Austin, Graham Thomas or Golden Celebration. Yellow and apricot colours usually come from hybrid teas and they are usually susceptible to blackspot and not good roses for my climate (with pernetianas being the worse and they are in the ancestry of many yellow HTs). There are exceptions, of course, there are good modern yellow roses and also good old yellow or apricot tea roses, I think the worst are the roses from times when everyone sprayed (or when the air quality was bad) and no one cared about the disease resistance. I've read that Kordes needed decades to get disease resistance into yellow roses.
I believe new yellow DAs are better. Last year, Marlorena posted some photos of Vanessa Bell and it was spotless. If it is spotless for her, it would be probably good here too. Poet's wife, I am not sure, probably not perfect but good in most areas. The Lark Ascending has a very good reputation. Another good one should be Roald Dahl.
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Agreed, don’t plant when the ground is either frozen or waterlogged.
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/type/old-roses-red
Edit; Also this!
https://www.davidaustinroses.co.uk/type/shop-all-roses-red
So first choose to search - All Roses - in the type section, then filter for red and it brings them all up.
I’ve emailed them.
I planted a bare-root rose last night, but being a bit of a twit I somehow managed to dig the hole in the wrong spot (note to self: don't try and dig big holes when you're tired and distracted!).
Anyway, I can't do anything about it until tomorrow morning at the earliest. Would I be right in assuming that it's unlikely to have actually done anything by then and I should be able to just dig it up again and move it quickly?
I like your garden transformation @edhelka and was interested in what you had to say about the apricot and yellow DA's. I'm new to DA's and have bought The Lark and Poet's Wife this winter so shall see how they get on.
Thank you for the heads up about the sales, I didn't have any budget for plants this month but have reassessed my outgoings (😉) and ordered the following:
Flanders was on my to-order list for later this year, so not an impulse buy really. Thought it would look nice as a splash of red in my front garden which has a fair bit of yellow and orange. Scentimental I've considered before as I've been thinking about a proper bi-colour for a while but couldn't find a suitable space in the garden. I'm going to try it in a permanent pot, but both these will be in temp pots for this year due to some on-going building work.
1st disclaimer - as you know, I am in an area with high blackspot pressure. Quite often something with good reviews from dryer areas blackspots here. And I don't spray. So I care about the disease resistance a lot.
2nd disclaimer - I don't trust DA's disease resistance. It's not a priority in their breeding program.
Yellow and apricot colours usually come from hybrid teas and they are usually susceptible to blackspot and not good roses for my climate (with pernetianas being the worse and they are in the ancestry of many yellow HTs). There are exceptions, of course, there are good modern yellow roses and also good old yellow or apricot tea roses, I think the worst are the roses from times when everyone sprayed (or when the air quality was bad) and no one cared about the disease resistance. I've read that Kordes needed decades to get disease resistance into yellow roses.