People need to keep a sense of proportion. The population of the UK is around 66 million. To date, approx. 30,500 people have died. The hospital bed vacancy rate has dropped to around 39%. Young people under 40 have more chance of dying in a car accident on their daily commute than die of Covid. Please use your common sense and stop getting so hysterical.
Just because your views do not agree with others on this thread, does not mean we are being hysterical. You are entitled to your views, although they are very much out of touch with medical opinion. I am in touch with several of my old ICU colleagues and they are saying many young people have been very ill and may suffer long term problems if they survive. I have had surgery cancelled because of the pandemic [ quite rightly ] and this may have a knock on affect.
You seem to forget that the number of dead is on top of all the people dieing from other causes and also that the mathematical modelling estimates that without the lockdown, the death rate would have been upwards of 200000, no hysteria there.
You of course will continue to do whatever you think is right and if dog forbid you get the virus, you will be cared for by our NHS, but it would be much more sensible if you decided not to increase their risk by being stupid.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
And thank dog for the NHS eh @punkdoc .... free at the point of need for all ... but if, as some say, the NHS is getting too costly because of the huge demands on it, and those who need it because of their abuse of alcohol, drugs or tobacco, or dangerous driving should have to pay ... maybe others who take risks against government advice should have to pay towards their treatment? I’m danged if I see why I should pay for their care when I’ve stayed home and kept safe.
Talk about a sense of entitlement ......... 🤐
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
People need to keep a sense of proportion. The population of the UK is around 66 million. To date, approx. 30,500 people have died. The hospital bed vacancy rate has dropped to around 39%. Young people under 40 have more chance of dying in a car accident on their daily commute than die of Covid. Please use your common sense and stop getting so hysterical.
That’s a minimum of 30,000 people dead (n reality many more) despite the country taking the most extreme measures ever to limit the spread.
What do you think that number would be if we’d done nothing?
I would also point out, that the 39% empty beds, is mainly beds that don't normally exist and due to all elective surgery being cancelled. Most ICU's are currently having a staff ratio of 1:4 rather than the normal 1:1 and that cannot go on for very long without doing terrible damage to our nursing staff. The 16.00 SITREP report for my ICU, still shows we have 24 patients, but only 14 beds.
How can you lie there and think of England When you don't even know who's in the team
I would also point out, that the 39% empty beds, is mainly beds that don't normally exist and due to all elective surgery being cancelled. Most ICU's are currently having a staff ratio of 1:4 rather than the normal 1:1 and that cannot go on for very long without doing terrible damage to our nursing staff. The 16.00 SITREP report for my ICU, still shows we have 24 patients, but only 14 beds.
Yep, our ICU normally has 8 beds. Current ‘capacity‘ is 10 times that, by repurposing other areas and drastically altering the usual way of working to support ICU trained nurses to care for more vented and (and often filtered) patients.
So can someone please explain why such a contagious virus has failed to infect me or any of my workmates or any of our families or friends? I accept it’s serious to vulnerable people but it doesn’t appear to be very contagious? I don’t want to argue with people but those are the facts, I don’t know anyone who knows anyone who has died of Covid and I know lots of people. The Nightingale hospitals are closing having hardly been used. What does that mean?
Dont forget, you can have it and be asymptomatic, you can have it mildly, and think its hay fever, an allergy or something else.The health workers who caught it were only vulnerable by virtue of doing their jobs.
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Please use your common sense and stop getting so hysterical.
You are entitled to your views, although they are very much out of touch with medical opinion. I am in touch with several of my old ICU colleagues and they are saying many young people have been very ill and may suffer long term problems if they survive.
I have had surgery cancelled because of the pandemic [ quite rightly ] and this may have a knock on affect.
You seem to forget that the number of dead is on top of all the people dieing from other causes and also that the mathematical modelling estimates that without the lockdown, the death rate would have been upwards of 200000, no hysteria there.
You of course will continue to do whatever you think is right and if dog forbid you get the virus, you will be cared for by our NHS, but it would be much more sensible if you decided not to increase their risk by being stupid.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Most ICU's are currently having a staff ratio of 1:4 rather than the normal 1:1 and that cannot go on for very long without doing terrible damage to our nursing staff.
The 16.00 SITREP report for my ICU, still shows we have 24 patients, but only 14 beds.
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
My critical care unit has made a documentary - to be shown on Monday BBC1 Wales 9pm (and iPlayer flowing broadcast).