Well my going back to work wasnt great.very upsetting.then it rained.normally I would go inside,have a cup of tea and a chat.couldnt do that.stood in the greenhouse then after half an hour went home.we were all trying hard to be staunch.but I cried in the car coming home.but I'm going back tomorrow the weather should be good and I've made them face masks so I'm trying again
Tomorrow, if it's warm enough, a friend is coming round after she has dropped her OH at work. We're going to sit outside in the garden 2 m apart and have a coffee and chat. She won't have to come into the house at all.
Can anyone explain why it’s perfectly fine to stand in a supermarket queue 2ms apart but not okay to sit 2ms apart from a friend in the garden? @Lizzie27 I hope you enjoy your friends visit.
Exactly, debs64. Yesterday I walked 200 yards through the village to deliver a birthday card. I told my wife I’d be back in 10 minutes. In fact it was well over an hour because en route I met three sets of friends who were working in their front gardens. In each case we stood 3 to 5 metres apart and chatted. What transmission risk was there in that?
Govt is thinking along the same lines (from the Guardian)
‘Picnics, sunbathing and unlimited rambles will be among the first activities to be allowed when the lockdown loosens, it emerged on Wednesday, after Boris Johnson announced that restrictions would begin to ease from Monday.
With the stringent restrictions due to be reviewed on Thursday – and details to be announced on Sunday – the prime minister is expected to change the rules so that people would be able to leave the house repeatedly in a single day, so long as they keep a safe distance from anyone from outside their household.’
Tomorrow, if it's warm enough, a friend is coming round after she has dropped her OH at work. We're going to sit outside in the garden 2 m apart and have a coffee and chat. She won't have to come into the house at all.
That is probably very low risk (apart from the coffee cup) but as it stands, it is officially against the ‘rules’ as it is isn’t one of the four reasons to be out. I’m sure those sort of interactions will be allowed and commonplace in the next phase of easing lockdown. I am looking forward to seeing my family in this way.
Can anyone explain why it’s perfectly fine to stand in a supermarket queue 2ms apart but not okay to sit 2ms apart from a friend in the garden? @Lizzie27 I hope you enjoy your friends visit.
Because food is essential?
I know what you mean, but the problem is that other people see your friend visit and think that’s ok do have 4 people round, then everybody else starts having visitors and mingling too and eventually we’re back where we started.
Food is essential but so is company, solitary confinement is used as a punishment everywhere and is massively detrimental to mental health. Technology helps but there’s nothing like interacting with other humans face to face. I think that People should be free to assess the risks and make their own choices without being judged by others.
Can anyone explain why it’s perfectly fine to stand in a supermarket queue 2ms apart but not okay to sit 2ms apart from a friend in the garden? @Lizzie27 I hope you enjoy your friends visit.
Because food is essential?
I know what you mean, but the problem is that other people see your friend visit and think that’s ok do have 4 people round, then everybody else starts having visitors and mingling too and eventually we’re back where we started.
This is exactly it - it's where do you draw the line once you start allowing this. Ideally you wouldn't go stand in a supermarket queue at all - but many have no choice, that's the difference. Ie it's just as risky but some risks have to be taken. That's the thing about this disease - it's easy not to see the dangers or risks of what seems to be cautious behaviour - but those who've suffered at its hands will tell you they are there.
And then the extra risks you're taking; the extra travelling puts you on the road longer at risk of an accident, the chance you will at some stage get closer than the 2 metres, having to touch a gate or something to get into the garden etc etc. All the things you may not have thought about.
It's hard but it's the same for us all. It'll change soon no doubt but even then things will need to be different.
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She won't have to come into the house at all.
‘Picnics, sunbathing and unlimited rambles will be among the first activities to be allowed when the lockdown loosens, it emerged on Wednesday, after Boris Johnson announced that restrictions would begin to ease from Monday.
With the stringent restrictions due to be reviewed on Thursday – and details to be announced on Sunday – the prime minister is expected to change the rules so that people would be able to leave the house repeatedly in a single day, so long as they keep a safe distance from anyone from outside their household.’
That is probably very low risk (apart from the coffee cup) but as it stands, it is officially against the ‘rules’ as it is isn’t one of the four reasons to be out. I’m sure those sort of interactions will be allowed and commonplace in the next phase of easing lockdown. I am looking forward to seeing my family in this way.
And then the extra risks you're taking; the extra travelling puts you on the road longer at risk of an accident, the chance you will at some stage get closer than the 2 metres, having to touch a gate or something to get into the garden etc etc. All the things you may not have thought about.
It's hard but it's the same for us all. It'll change soon no doubt but even then things will need to be different.