No I don't know, but the scientists do seem to, as it is quoted in several papers.
I can't see it would be difficult to cross reference antibody tests with those that tested positive for antigens (thus proving infection with Covid 19) to arrive at a figure.
I thought the dodgy antibody tests were early on and rejected by the UK government in favour of the more accurate testing now available, done in labs.
Seems to me in the real world there are some people who's lives haven't changed much.!I went to garden today for a lady who lives alone.was born in the house she lives in.never married.doesnt drive.no internet.mobile phone.few friends.no family.there was I worried , but she said her life hadn't changed much!still going to shops.just queuing.apart from that,she was ok.she sat inside.i worked outside.shes 89.! I felt like I was the one who was going mad
No I don't know, but the scientists do seem to, as it is quoted in several papers.
I can't see it would be difficult to cross reference antibody tests with those that tested positive for antigens (thus proving infection with Covid 19) to arrive at a figure.
I thought the dodgy antibody tests were early on and rejected by the UK government in favour of the more accurate testing now available, done in labs.
But a false positive antibody test would be one that shows that the person being tested has had COVID-19 previously, when actually they haven't had it. I'm curious how it could be known that they definitely haven't had it, and therefore that the antibody test result is a false positive rather than a genuine positive, when they could have had it with no symptoms and no antigen test (or had a negative antigen test at some point in time but had it without symptoms at some other time).
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It said in yesterdays paper, you would have had to have symptoms within 14 days to be tested for antibodies. Just made the old man a chilli con carne, small amount just for him 2 heaped teaspoons of hot chilli , he could only taste it as he swallowed it. I dont know about "only like cold", I watch a documentary last week, "What is it like to have coronavirus", and the folks who were all young bar one lady, looked and felt pretty ill, BUT they were continuing to live their lives, look after their kids, run the home, had partners, who could have done these things, they also werent isolating from their partners, who then of course, went down with it. The should have isolated themselves, and rested.
Seems to me in the real world there are some people who's lives haven't changed much.!I went to garden today for a lady who lives alone.was born in the house she lives in.never married.doesnt drive.no internet.mobile phone.few friends.no family.there was I worried , but she said her life hadn't changed much!still going to shops.just queuing.apart from that,she was ok.she sat inside.i worked outside.shes 89.! I felt like I was the one who was going mad
I know how she feels. I suffer from SAD so already had a 6 month 'lockdown' like I do every winter. Was just coming out of it when the Covid-19 lockdown started.
Still feeling weird though, it is one thing to sometimes not want to go out and do much in society, another to know I can't.
Hug for you Gemma, I have 2 sons with mental illness, one has rapid cycling bi polar, is on the autistic spectrum and severe depression, (I am his carer)the other with severe depression is actually agorophobic, so not bothered about going out, he had 3 rats, for company, one died a few days ago, now he is worried about the last one being on her own, and she is the most timid, used to snuggle up to her sister. Saw them yesterday, took, food, (wearing a PPF mask) goggles, and gloves, antibac hand gel and wipes in the car, still kept distance.The are late 30s early 40s, dont qualify for any special treatment, with age, of shielding issues. My oldest daughter works in the town where one of them lives,works for one of the big 4 supermarkets, and has been dropping off food, but she went down with every classic symptom herself , and has just emerged from 7 day isolation.
No I don't know, but the scientists do seem to, as it is quoted in several papers.
I can't see it would be difficult to cross reference antibody tests with those that tested positive for antigens (thus proving infection with Covid 19) to arrive at a figure.
I thought the dodgy antibody tests were early on and rejected by the UK government in favour of the more accurate testing now available, done in labs.
But a false positive antibody test would be one that shows that the person being tested has had COVID-19 previously, when actually they haven't had it. I'm curious how it could be known that they definitely haven't had it, and therefore that the antibody test result is a false positive rather than a genuine positive, when they could have had it with no symptoms and no antigen test (or had a negative antigen test at some point in time but had it without symptoms at some other time).
So being a nosy so-and-so I had a hunt around for research papers - here, under the link dated 29th April. I can't claim to understand it all (not being medically trained) but as I understand it, they used some pre-COVID-19 serum samples. Presumably these had been taken prevously, before COVID-19 was around, for other reasons and kept in storage, so I guess I have my answer!
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Thanks for the hug @Nanny Beach It's difficult all round. I had a chat with a neighbour early on (with a road between us for social distancing), was explaining to him how I'm somewhat pre-adapted to the situation as it is life as I normally experience it for half the year or more.
My son is also on the spectrum, it's not easy for him now, though in someways he seems to be coping better than his friends, because he takes everything literally, he won't break any of the lockdown rules at all. We both also need to shield as my OH is high risk. About my only sanity right now is out in the garden.
Just as I was reading this and the ordeals being faced by Gemma and Nanny B, my wife called across to me as she was looking out of the window, “Isn’t the garden lovely? We’re so lucky.” Indeed we are; life is not fair and I do hope that Gemma, Nanny B and all the others on this forum who, uncomplaining, are carrying burdens can find respite. I wish you well.
Another problem that is not really appreciated, is that we have no idea how long people will have antibodies for, it may be forever, but it could only be for a few weeks, which you will appreciate is potentially worrying. Antibody testing for any disease has many flaws, but understandably it is not an issue which is much dwelt on by the scientists.
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I thought the dodgy antibody tests were early on and rejected by the UK government in favour of the more accurate testing now available, done in labs.
But a false positive antibody test would be one that shows that the person being tested has had COVID-19 previously, when actually they haven't had it. I'm curious how it could be known that they definitely haven't had it, and therefore that the antibody test result is a false positive rather than a genuine positive, when they could have had it with no symptoms and no antigen test (or had a negative antigen test at some point in time but had it without symptoms at some other time).
Still feeling weird though, it is one thing to sometimes not want to go out and do much in society, another to know I can't.
So being a nosy so-and-so I had a hunt around for research papers - here, under the link dated 29th April. I can't claim to understand it all (not being medically trained) but as I understand it, they used some pre-COVID-19 serum samples. Presumably these had been taken prevously, before COVID-19 was around, for other reasons and kept in storage, so I guess I have my answer!
My son is also on the spectrum, it's not easy for him now, though in someways he seems to be coping better than his friends, because he takes everything literally, he won't break any of the lockdown rules at all. We both also need to shield as my OH is high risk. About my only sanity right now is out in the garden.
Antibody testing for any disease has many flaws, but understandably it is not an issue which is much dwelt on by the scientists.
When you don't even know who's in the team
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