She will be paying for a private scan at 20 weeks to determine sex and Dad can go to that but this is a much awaited first baby and it seems mean to exclude Dad who is desperately excited to see his little one. If room is very small I suppose it makes sense but it seems a shame.
Yes it IS a shame and so disappointing. So sorry... But needful. I had been a spectator in all this . I am effectively housebound and as we say here in Ireland " cocooning" ie shielding, as I am all the time my immune system being down. Last week I suffered what they term " a life threatening medical emergency" and had to be helicoptered out ( I live on a small island) to hospital. And into a world of high security. It felt at times in those three days like a prison. No leaving the ward for any reason unless masked. No air, and the only visitors were to one man who is dying. Every person entering is a threat, who may bring covid in. So, here certainly, they are being rigid. We were non covid on that ward but many seriously ill and covid an extra risk we could not afford.
And I agree totally; we have lost family members already. and would gladly accept any restrictions or sacrifice. to slow or arrest this scourge
The threat of infection was not to the mother to be in the situation you speak of but to others in the hospital eg medics. When the emt came out of the chopper to take me in he would not come near me until I was masked. The chopper was a covid clean area. I was a potential threat.
When we landed, I had been allocated to the covid isolation unit as a risk until tested,. The chopper crew had a word and this was muted because of my " geographical location" ie a tiny island; all the islands were quarantined at the very start. All the islands have been clear .The ferries were not allowing entry. My GP had been, heavily PPE dressed. So I was allowed straight in to A and E.
Like your friend's husband was an additional risk. A terrible disappointment.
Here in Ireland covid has been kept low by strict measures from the start. Our death and infection rates are low. That has cost dearly and will cost more in human terms. In my ward were old ladies with major illnesses unable to have the comfort of family. There weeks already.. Deeply thankful for mobile phones. They were a lifeline to those ladies. Because of the risk of more infection.
Sorry to go on but it has all been a hard and needful time for me. The nurses are so overstretched and understaffed and so dedicated and caring . Every occasion we do without on will help that tiny amount. The fewer who come in, the less risk of more infection.
These months have been hard but needfully restricted. And no limit in sight.
PS may I send a hand knitted pair of booties or a wee hat to your friend please? It would be an honour!
gatherings. They invite us over and promise we can just stay in the garden at a distance but try explaining that to a 2 year old. I know we're being over cautious but both our families haven't been taking lockdown measures very seriously and can't be trusted to respect boundaries at the best of times.
Not over cautious; deeply sensible and responsible .
Went to Morrisons, everybody the world and his wife were bloody fiddling with their masks!! I think its such a sham these days people want to know the sex of their babies, when I had my last one, (she is 28 now) they thought that was really strange and were busting to tell me. Spoils something special. A friend asked me to got for coffee last week our favorite seafront hotel, nah thanks do not want to be inside, and next week dinner with the usual ladies. Nope, my grandson has been shielded since March, I look after the grandkids while my daughter is working, got dogs, would be a flaming nightmare to receive a text, whatever saying we had to isolate for 14 days because someone tested positive, not worth the risk.
Read somewhere lately that steroid injections suppress the immune system and therefore put people at more risk from Covid. Does anybody know if this is true - possibly @punkdoc please? I'm interested because I had a shoulder injection back in February.
Steroids are the one drug that has been shown to improve survival of patients with severe COVID, so that is great news. However they do depress immunity, so there may be a slight increased risk of catching the virus, but miniscule following a shoulder injection.
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I am not sure if you would get a message now @Nanny Beach as I think the track and trace system is in some way illegal and has been shelved? Not definitely sure but I am sure I read something along those lines recently. It’s to do with data protection apparently not sure how that affects the contact details left at pubs etc?
It hasnt been shelved Debs, When the pubs opended a couple of weeks ago, 3 closed after 2 days, friends who have been said they had to fill in a form with their names and contact details. I see a pub in Crawley West Sussex has just closed after 16 confirmed cases including 2 staff.
I wasn’t sure as I know there is an issue with data protection. Not sure about pubs etc I am happy to leave my details but I imagine others are likely to give false information if they are concerned about their private details being kept safe and only used appropriately.
Read somewhere lately that steroid injections suppress the immune system and therefore put people at more risk from Covid. Does anybody know if this is true - possibly @punkdoc please? I'm interested because I had a shoulder injection back in February.
Hi Lizzie, my wife takes immunosuppressants and on a recent appointment with her consultant he said :
" I and anyone else in our family is more likely to die from covid19 than she is due to the fact she is on immune suppressants"
Now you and I and anyone else reading that would think hang on that cant be right but, on questioning him he said:
" The latest evidence suggests that many people have been dying when their immune system goes into overdrive and the body's immune system attacks itself in an attempt to deal with covid19 subsequently the immune system does not switch off and thus contributes to the death of the victim"
I may not have explained that very well but, that's the gist of it . If your on immune suppressants the latest research ( according to the wifes consultant) means your immune system wont kick into overdrive and kill you. You may die of other complications possibly but not from your Immune system flooding your body as its suppressed by the treatment your on.
I assume that's why steroids are being used to suppress the immune system for seriously ill covid19 patients.
But please note I am not a medical professional and I'm only relaying in broad terms what was stated by the wife's consultant so please consult with a medical professional for any clarifications. Kili
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And I agree totally; we have lost family members already. and would gladly accept any restrictions or sacrifice. to slow or arrest this scourge
The threat of infection was not to the mother to be in the situation you speak of but to others in the hospital eg medics. When the emt came out of the chopper to take me in he would not come near me until I was masked. The chopper was a covid clean area. I was a potential threat.
When we landed, I had been allocated to the covid isolation unit as a risk until tested,. The chopper crew had a word and this was muted because of my " geographical location" ie a tiny island; all the islands were quarantined at the very start. All the islands have been clear .The ferries were not allowing entry. My GP had been, heavily PPE dressed. So I was allowed straight in to A and E.
Like your friend's husband was an additional risk. A terrible disappointment.
Here in Ireland covid has been kept low by strict measures from the start. Our death and infection rates are low. That has cost dearly and will cost more in human terms. In my ward were old ladies with major illnesses unable to have the comfort of family. There weeks already.. Deeply thankful for mobile phones. They were a lifeline to those ladies. Because of the risk of more infection.
Sorry to go on but it has all been a hard and needful time for me. The nurses are so overstretched and understaffed and so dedicated and caring . Every occasion we do without on will help that tiny amount. The fewer who come in, the less risk of more infection.
These months have been hard but needfully restricted. And no limit in sight.
PS may I send a hand knitted pair of booties or a wee hat to your friend please? It would be an honour!
However they do depress immunity, so there may be a slight increased risk of catching the virus, but miniscule following a shoulder injection.
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" I and anyone else in our family is more likely to die from covid19 than she is due to the fact she is on immune suppressants"
Now you and I and anyone else reading that would think hang on that cant be right but, on questioning him he said:
" The latest evidence suggests that many people have been dying when their immune system goes into overdrive and the body's immune system attacks itself in an attempt to deal with covid19 subsequently the immune system does not switch off and thus contributes to the death of the victim"
I may not have explained that very well but, that's the gist of it . If your on immune suppressants the latest research ( according to the wifes consultant) means your immune system wont kick into overdrive and kill you. You may die of other complications possibly but not from your Immune system flooding your body as its suppressed by the treatment your on.
I assume that's why steroids are being used to suppress the immune system for seriously ill covid19 patients.
But please note I am not a medical professional and I'm only relaying in broad terms what was stated by the wife's consultant so please consult with a medical professional for any clarifications.
Kili
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'