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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    If you read back @mac12, you will find out.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • mac12mac12 Posts: 209
    Rasingirl  your post sounds very much like you think someone's opinion is more important than someone else's in my view nothing has been proven about covid from any side so all opinions are valid. Perhaps our expert could tell us his views on people now reporting respiratory problems from constantly wearing a mask 
  • Covid has not gone away, 
    And maybe it never will....or perhaps it may? Who knows?
    What I'm convinced will happen though if we return to any form of restriction is the increase in undiagnosed or late diagnosed cancers along with other life threatening illnesses or long term conditions. Primarily because of a wholly disproportionate allocation of resources to a respiratory disease with an extremely small mortally rate. Most of which occur (if what I've read is correct) in the elderly, those with long term health conditions and the obese.
    ...
    So, when the hospitals are full up with those patients what are we going to do ... tell the folk with other respiratory and heart problems that they'll have to wait as can't be treated because the wards are full?....... Or are we going to tell the folk who are seriously ill with Covid 'Sorry, you'll have to stay at home and die ... we can't fill the hospitals up with the likes of you ... other people are more important'?


    I'm not sure I follow what you're saying?
  • pansyface said:
    Down with the elderly.
    Down with that sort of thing.
    If that's a reference to my post I didn't actually say or infer 'Down with elderly'. I repeated what I believe to be an accurate statistic in that the majority of deaths associated with Covid occur in the elderly. 
    For what it's worth, I think the way the over 65s are treated in this country is scandalous ...off topic slightly, so apologies for that but the ONS stated (2018) that of the 46000(!) potentially avoidable excess winter deaths occurring in 2017, 92% were over 65. Perhaps if more resources were earmarked to keeping our pensioners warm, fed, provided with good quality healthcare & kept safe in their own homes Covid mortally in our old people could be kept lower?
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    What I'm convinced will happen though if we return to any form of restriction is the increase in undiagnosed or late diagnosed cancers along with other life threatening illnesses or long term conditions.
    Remind me again how wearing a mask in Asda and washing your hands prevents cancers being diagnosed? If a person catches Covid in Asda and has to go to hospital why isn't causing an increase in the problems you state?

    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • philippasmith2philippasmith2 Posts: 3,742
    @mac12 If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you will see that @punkdoc has been more than kind in sharing his knowledge of the subject with forum members.  
    You do not need to accept what he and others say - that is entirely up to you of course.  Perhaps you should start your own thread on the subject if you feel strongly that the info/advice given on this one doesn't suit your beliefs. At least that way those who find the posts useful and informative can continue reading without silly distractions.
  • mac12mac12 Posts: 209
    Wasn't it the scientists who advised the government at the beginning who got everything wrong
    Rasingirl  the government told doctors to put every death down to covid whatever the cause 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    No they didn’t.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • mac12mac12 Posts: 209
    Didn't what?
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