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  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    I remember the cottage hospital in the village where I grew up @Dovefromabove.   My aunt volunteered there.  Everyone was up in arms when it was closed and yes, there are houses there now.  So short-sighted.    
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    Hi @Dovefromabove,

    We are lucky here that we still have a network of small community hospitals that support the main DGH. They are used for rehab. of patients such as stroke victims who may need considerable time and support to reach their potential for more independent living.
    They also do some minor stuff that people might go to A&E for. Husband went there when he'd cut his fingers badly on a mandoline and they wouldn't stop bleeding.
    I did suggest he should read the instructions first  

    Bee x
    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Convalescent homes were such a good thing. There big one near us is now "luxury flats". 🤬
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Sometimes just throwing money at an issue isn't always the long term answer.
    It helps of course, but identifying how the NHS can work smarter is just as important. So a healthy R&D budget is vital.

    In the really long term properly resourcing public health is the thing we need to do ..... but that's a whole other debate.

    Bee x

    Honestly I do think it is mainly about putting in the proper resources. We are well below most comparable nations in terms of health spending (£ per head); the NHS is a pretty efficient system in comparison to others. We have basically been propagandised to think of it as "exorbitant", "wasteful", and "failing". 
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • There is also the option of making Council tax fairer rather than just looking to NHI increases.
    A household of 2 adults pays the same as a household of 4/6 or however many if the property is rated the same.  
    This would surely at least be of some benefit to enabling more/improved social care in  communities if councils can be relied upon not to waste any increased income.  Like any tax increase, it needs to take into account a household's ability to pay but the current system can hardly be described as fair for all.
    If Thatcher's "Poll Tax" still turns people off, why not simply call it a Community Charge - that's what it is after all and I'm pretty sure one of the many Govt. Advisers/Spin Doctors could come up with a name which avoids the actual word "TAX".
    Obviously, it won't solve the current crisis but it may be worth considering before too long.
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    My niece wishes to train as a midwife and the courses are all massively over subscribed at a time when there’s a shocking shortage of midwives. Surely it’s not impossible to train more medical staff and better look after those we have? 
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Problem is even if there were more university places available to train doctors, it takes about 10 years from starting university to becoming a suitably qualified doctor.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    So we need to start now don’t we? Maybe make the study of medicine more accessible? Midwives don’t take 10 years to train I assume? Nurses? Porters? What happened to the people who actually looked after patients in hospitals? Making tea, making beds etc. 
    My experience of the NHS has been very worrying although I admit it’s not something I use regularly, in fact I haven’t been a patient in hospital overnight for many many years and for that I am truly grateful but the experience of others isn’t positive. It’s actually very frightening. 
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Down here where I live they advertise for care workers in homes,    No experience necessary we will train you.  
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • ErgatesErgates Posts: 2,953
    I suspect that part of the problem has resulted from the fact that in the past, nursing and caring were traditionally female roles, therefore poorly paid and short on respect or appreciation. The role of carer will continue to be hard to fill while it is treated as a low grade, unskilled job, worthy of less recompense than stacking supermarket shelves.
    I don’t know if the role of SEN has completely disappeared now, with the move to degrees in nursing, but that used to be a recognition of the value of providing hands on care to patients.
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