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  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    edited December 2021
    debs64 said:
    How can this government expect people to cancel or restrict their Christmas celebrations when they behaved as they did last year? I can’t help thinking that “they” know something that we don’t. Why else do they flout the rules? Have they no concern for their own safety? 
    Because Boffle  only came into politics for the short term and desperately wants to be popular … he has no self control and is incapable of making firm decisions. We are being governed by an emotionally needy toddler. 
    But Boris didn’t even go to the 2020 Downing Street bash.  Which presumably shows that the attitude of “rules for us are different than rules for them” permeates all levels.  I remember missing out on 3 different events last December because there were 7 of us (the rule of 6 was in full force).  Its a joke.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    This year doesn't appear to be anywhere near as bad in the lead up due to the jabs, but didn't last year's mixed attitude lead to this https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths? If Boris' bunch were partying, it was not a joke, and not 'safe' to the families of the thousands a day who went on to die.


    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Fire said:
    JennyJ said:
    I'd be seriously worried (not to mention annoyed) if someone providing medical treatment said something like that to me.

    I still regret not reporting them. I was so furious - and in tears - at the time.
    That's hideous @Fire. Totally unacceptable. As @JennyJ says, for anyone giving you treatment [of any kind] to say that, is astonishing. 
    Makes you wonder why they're in the profession at all, if it was that simple.  :/
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited December 2021
    Since the start of the pandemic we operate on the policy of ‘better safe than sorry’ … having partied plenty in the past we have no problem with keeping in touch with family and friends mainly by phone and email over the past two years  … OH’s widowed Mum has gone back to only mixing with a small bubble of friends … we never even considered going to anywhere where there would be a houseful this Christmas … we will be at home … my son will visit for an evening meal if he considers it safe to do so. He manages a mobile Covid testing team so is pretty aware of what’s going on … he has been told they can expect to be very busy over Christmas … he is on the rota to work Christmas Day and Boxing Day so that colleagues with children can have time with them. … we also gratefully take on board all the information from @punkdoc 🙏 

    We will not need to change our party plans as we didn’t make any. Our health and that of our nearest and dearest is more important to us than partying. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    edited December 2021
    Glad you’re sorted @Dovefromabove ….good for you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Hopefully we'll pull up the drawbridge on Christmas eve at my daughter's place and not let it down again until the following Tuesday. The usual Christmas (apart from last year) of good company, food (whether good or bad doesn't matter), a nice pint of Harvey's and sitting round a table playing games and chatting. That's partying to me.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • chicky said:
    Glad you’re sorted @Dovefromabove ….good for you 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    ;)  Wonky has her Lovely Hub and his son (and his brother) live locally ... if it's safe they'll visit for a meal or two but if not at least they won't be alone.  My son is on his own so he's chosen to work ... as I said, if its safe he'll come here ... but having lived in very rural areas and growing up on farms we are used to 'events' taking control of our lives ... whether they be weather or farming-related.  There were times in my childhood when granny was due to come to us for Christmas but she lived in Bedfordshire and we were in Suffolk and sometimes snow meant that she couldn't get to us and we couldn't leave the farm animals to fetch her.  For many years we only saw her twice a year in a good year, but that was just the way it was ... I suppose we grew up to be very stoical ... no point in getting upset ... there was nothing anyone could do about it :)

    It's going to be difficult for my brother tho' ... as he is so unwell and since his wife  broke her arm yesterday they're going to be quite dependent on their offsprung ... thankfully they all live locally ... last year their three children, wives and families self-isolated for ten days prior to Christmas so that they could spend a few hours with 'Grandpa' ... they had hoped for a bit more family time this year but their pregnant younger daughter's husband was pinged two days ago ... they had PCR tests yesterday afternoon (their cousin/my son administered them lol) and their fingers are very crossed.  Brother has to go to Cambridge for more tests and treatment over the next few days ... one of the family will take him ... Wonky has volunteered to go on the rota, bless her ... she tests regularly as many of her customers are elderly and vulnerable ... she has to stay safe because if she can't work she gets no money ... if she gets no money they literally won't be able to afford their rent ... so neither she nor her Lovely Hub take any risks at all.  

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    Snip from steveTu
    'We just have the gov spin line that seems to be saying 'it's fine to get out there and party like it's 1999 - but it's your decision'.

    My opinion is that it's fence sitting in as much as they don't want to be seen as cracking the whip and saying no don't do it. I guess that they know we are sick and fed up with being told what to do and not do so are leaving the decision to us - rightly or wrongly and hope that we will be sensible. After all, it's what most of the younger population has wanted for a while now.
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • floraliesfloralies Posts: 2,718
    I totally understand Dove, haven't seen my son and daughter since before the pandemic started but keep in touch with whatsapp etc. 
    Two friends have asked us to join them for lunch next week in a small Auberge but we will decline, they are always out to restaurants and visiting etc, but OH has his booster the day before and mine isn't until the week after, we don't want to take chances, we will wait until we can sit outside again. 
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    The government has left the choice to the people,  Dove has chosen to be careful,  so have many of us, some won’t, some have been holidaying and partying all summer.

    When you look at the statistics (if you can go by that). There are 1250 hospitals in the U.K.,  7000 COVID patients,  that’s about 5/6 people on average in each hospital,    out of those, 922 are on ventilators,  that’s less than one person per hospital.
    If run efficiently NHS should really be able to cope with that.
    People are looking at these statistics and getting restless now, understandably. 

    There’s  more going on in this government slur than we will ever know,  but it’s not about the public safety or COVID 

    They've done the job of getting vaccines to everyone who wants them, their job’s done.
    now it’s our choice and I dare say most people will be careful. 

    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

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