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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited August 2021
    Tonsures and QR codes would be cheaper and much more efficient.
    Borg nanoprobes would work too but I think they might be expensive.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    My favourite SM has a drive thru disinfectant for trolleys and you can spray your hands while it passes thru.  Others range form help yourself sprays and wipes to clean hands and trolleys to a barely there (LIDL) dispenser.

    Given that we are eminently trackable thru mobile phones, fidelity cards and GPS systems why would anyone want to micro-chip us?
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    edited August 2021
    steveTu said:
    Are your numbers correct (Edited to add: Or what are they quoting - total population)? They don't seem to agree with what the UK gov is showing here: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

    ...that shows 89%->76% for 1st and 2nd jabs (Edited to add: Over 18's)



    A Google search, but obviously not good data.  Thanks for pointing that out.

    @steveTu


    Utah, USA.
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    Utah (very highly republican state) has decided that Covid is over and things are back to normal.  Few are wearing masks, like 7-10%?  Our schools are not requiring masks or vaccines.  And today our main children’s hospital in Salt Lake City is at 100% capacity in their ICU, and the main hospital is at 102% capacity in their ICU.  It's so frustrating.  We mask, adults are vaccinated, and we are social distanced and careful.  But if we have an medical emergency, then we're stuffed.  No space, burned out doctors and nurses, and all that.  

    Don't seem to matter though, the gov't is not going to tread on anyone’s freedoms.  I am back to school next week, and our primary age kids start the week after.. no masks on the other children (ours will be masked, but that is only 30% or less effective).  I am hoping our state will see sense at the 11th hour and instate a mask mandate for the under 12s that can not yet vaccinate.   
    Utah, USA.
  • Blue OnionBlue Onion Posts: 2,995
    Thanks @Obelixx. Unfortunately, it really is all about luck.  A bit of a gamble.  
    Utah, USA.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Shopping,local and mall,since masks aren't mandatory, the majority of 20/30 year olds are not masked. They don't clean hands, trolley, baskets
     Distance has gone out the window. Yet when we are dog walking outside,we are all leaping into the road
     I saw one man guessing 70s shopping Tuesday,no mask,but that's very unusual. A whole family wiped out the other day,son early 40s mum, dad didn't believe in vaccines and they were too young to get sick. Very fit young climber died very quickly,also unvaccinated!
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    It all seems a bit surreal over here to me. We had months of gov briefings explaining what was going on. Now hardly a peep. Fine, luckily vaccines came along (and it wasn't Boris or Trump who did that) - but until the pandemic is no longer a pandemic (which is what the scientists were saying initially) - it poses a major  issue. We still have 20,000+ cases a day here, with 80+ deaths (I haven't seen data on what those deaths are - ie age group/vaccination status). But with that going on, I just get the feeling that it is 'perceived' that it's over. I also still don't get whether kids and schools are a vector or not. When will the numbers decrease further - and what is the age split of those being infected? What actually is happening? What variants are out there (https://hms.harvard.edu/news/present-future-covid-variants)? ( we had three or four didn't we, that posed a threat - B3, Kent, South Africa, Indian) - and now even that goes quiet with more and more cases out there - the world is up at 700,000 cases a day (and that's detected cases) from a dip of 400,000.

    Weirdly as well, and I think because of that perception that we're in the clear, the SM shelves are poorly stocked - for whatever reason (and it seems to be getting worse at the SM I use) - but no one  seems to give a stuff. Compare that to the start of the pandemic and any shortage created a run on that item with people stocking up. So it seems that perception of Covid + shortage = panic, perception of all clear + shortage = what the heck.



    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Allotment BoyAllotment Boy Posts: 6,774
    Apologies if I have said this before.  Re tracking people,  when we moved to this house 20 years ago, we had been here about 3 months and Sainsbury wrote to my wife saying you have moved and didn't tell us, part of their loyalty card scheme.  Remember this was before most of us had mobiles, and the Internet was mostly used for work or by enthusiastic geeks. So if people are worried about being tracked then they are at least 20 years too late. 
    As regards data, Zoe app and Dr John Campbell on U tube,  good summaries of all the data and comparisons with other countries.  The vast majority in hospital have not had the vaccine or only 1 dose. 
    AB Still learning

  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Had a moan to my MP about queuing at Covid test centres and how the app detects 'contact' (ok, largely irrelevant now - or should I say, the feel is that Covid is yesterday's news, but maybe not come autumn)  and got a reply in which she advised me to contact the NHS app people. Why do I find that so frustrating?
    Surely how the app works and how people are tested at walk-in centres are coordinated? No? Maybe not. Just hope the current lull (if you can call 20k+ cases a day and 80+ deaths) continues and we don't have another surge in autumn where the app and test centre coordination becomes relevant again.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
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